86% of Americans Say Biden Is To Old To Be President

[libre]

Friend sent me this meme.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I thought it would be a cakewalk for Dems with the abortion crackdown but the border issue is going to hurt them I think.

I see that happening with both parties.
They make really good decisions, looking good, and then suddenly as if out of nowhere, they do something that totally destroys any positive direction that they may be going in. It almost makes me think they want to lose.

For the life of me I don't understand the reasoning behind these drastic measures that make no sense and winning the hearts and minds of people no matter what political affiliation they are associated with.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Friend sent me this meme.
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Good thing basements are generally concrete!

Can't say much for the rest of the house though.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

I don't agree that a "good place to start" is ageism. For the same reason I don't agree that a "good place to start" is sexism, racism, or any other type of category-based discrimination.

I'm just going to post this... again:

Ageism is one of the last socially acceptable prejudices. Psychologists are working to change that

Psychologists are examining the age discrimination that pervades American culture and helping people to reimagine healthier relationships with their older selves.

www.apa.org

Having age limits on a job that requires a significant amount of energy and cognitive capacity is not "discrimination," it's just common sense. I assume you don't think children should be allowed to be president, correct? Does that make you an ageist? You're already advocating for discrimination by proposing a civics test or arbitrary job description anyway which is I said already is difficult to implement and likely to result in actual, unjust discrimination. At least age is a demonstrable indicator of ability.

 

[F1fan]

I can not see either of them surviving a full term.

Is that judgment due to your medical expertise?

Jimmy Carter will be 100 this year.

However neither is a friend of the UK or Europe come to that.

Biden isn't a friend to the UK and Europe? Based on what evidence?

I asked you for evidence before and you only offered more baseless opinions. Do you not know what evidence means?

 

[F1fan]

Your turn. List all of Biden's equivalent "lack of mental cognitive." He confused the presidents of Mexico and Egypt, which is disconcerting, but neither name (or face) is well-known. Trump confuses Biden with Obama and Pelosi with Haley - four very well-known names and faces.

There's your "lack of mental cognitive." Trump's brain is mush, whereas Biden is leading the free world.

I thought about the confusion between Mexico and Egypt and realized these are two nations south of a border where there is a humanitarian crisis going on, and which both need immediate attention and solutions. Biden is in the middle of working for solutions at both of these borders and I can see how someone working to solve serious problems might make a mistake when asked about one or the other.

The funny thing about all the hoopla about Biden's occassional mistake I am more self-conscious about similar mistakes I'm making at 61. On the plus side my mental errors are nothing like Trump's.

 

[Quintessence]

Having age limits on a job that requires a significant amount of energy and cognitive capacity is not "discrimination," it's just common sense. I assume you don't think children should be allowed to be president, correct? Does that make you an ageist? You're already advocating for discrimination by proposing a civics test or arbitrary job description anyway which is I said already is difficult to implement and likely to result in actual, unjust discrimination. At least age is a demonstrable indicator of ability.

You didn't read the article, did you?

 

[libre]

Jimmy Carter will be 100 this year.

He'd make a better runner up too

 

[F1fan]

He'd make a better runner up too

You take your commitment against ageism really seriously.

 

[libre]

You take your commitment against ageism really seriously.

What can I say, Carter has more integrity than either of the 2 clowns running right now.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Is that judgment due to your medical expertise?

Jimmy Carter will be 100 this year.

Biden isn't a friend to the UK and Europe? Based on what evidence?

I asked you for evidence before and you only offered more baseless opinions. Do you not know what evidence means?

Bidens frailty is clear for everyone to see . I am 89 and am steadier than he is. When he is questioned he often looks entirely vacant and takes time to gather his thoughts.. his actions over trade and energy show his attitude to the UK and Europe.. he might live to 100 but not in a fit state to govern.

Trump is unfit to govern now through his mental state and insanity as well as his professed dictatorial. Desires.. he is more likely to be assassinated than die naturally in office.

 

[Callisto]

I agree that there should be other qualifications for being president in theory, but that's where things get difficult. Who sets those qualifications--are they voted on or does a single person or group of people decide them? If they are voted on, do they change whenever public opinion changes? If they're set by a group, how do we know that the group is not acting in it's own self interest, and does it have the right to change the requirements? Who writes these civics tests and job qualifications and how do we demonstrate that they are not biased to exclude specific individuals from holding office? Additional requirements are a good idea in theory but are difficult to implement. Age is an easy one. We know for a fact that on average, 80 year olds are less cognitively and physically qualified than the average 40 year old. So age restrictions are a good place to start, and we can build from there.

It would require amending the Constitution. That would require a proposal passed by two-thirds of both houses of Congress and either ratified by three-fourths of the states' legislatures or by specially called ratifying conventions in three-fourths of the states.

Or states can propose an amendment via a constitutional convention called by two-thirds of the states. The proposal then is ratified by either the legislatures of three-fourths of the states or via ratifying conventions in at least three-fourths of the states.

Amending the U.S. Constitution

I think a test should be on constitutional law requiring knowledge at least on par with a first year Constitutional law student. I would also prefer candidates have some background in local politics. They don't need to have held office per se but should have some record of significant contribution to their community.

 

[KaneDavid]

Having age limits on a job that requires a significant amount of energy and cognitive capacity is not "discrimination," it's just common sense. I assume you don't think children should be allowed to be president, correct? Does that make you an ageist? You're already advocating for discrimination by proposing a civics test or arbitrary job description anyway which is I said already is difficult to implement and likely to result in actual, unjust discrimination. At least age is a demonstrable indicator of ability.

While age limits for certain roles can be grounded in practical considerations like energy and cognitive capacity, it's essential to balance these concerns with fairness. Proposing a civics test or specific job requirements aims to ensure competence rather than discriminate unjustly. Striking the right balance between experience and capability is crucial, acknowledging that age alone might not be the sole indicator of ability. It's a nuanced conversation, and exploring alternative ways to assess fitness for roles can contribute to more inclusive practices without compromising essential qualifications.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I thought about the confusion between Mexico and Egypt and realized these are two nations south of a border where there is a humanitarian crisis going on, and which both need immediate attention and solutions. Biden is in the middle of working for solutions at both of these borders and I can see how someone working to solve serious problems might make a mistake when asked about one or the other.

That's an excellent observation.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Bidens frailty is clear for everyone to see . I am 89 and am steadier than he is. When he is questioned he often looks entirely vacant and takes time to gather his thoughts.. his actions over trade and energy show his attitude to the UK and Europe.. he might live to 100 but not in a fit state to govern.

Eighty-nine? You're clearly too old to have observations that warrant serious consideration.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I have a question—which follows from the thread topic—on which I'm interested to read others' perspectives: when some people called for Ruth Bader Ginsburg to step down during Obama's presidency due to her advanced age and increased likelihood of passing away during a Republican president's term if she didn't step down during Obama's, were they being ageist or otherwise unreasonable? Why or why not?

 

[fantome profane]

I have a question—which follows from the thread topic—on which I'm interested to read others' perspectives: when some people called for Ruth Bader Ginsburg to step down during Obama's presidency due to her advanced age and increased likelihood of passing away during a Republican president's term if she didn't step down during Obama's, were they being ageist or otherwise unreasonable? Why or why not?

That is a different situation. No one was calling for her to step down because she was suffering mental decline due to age. I don't remember anyone claiming that. On the contrary, her judgement, her insight, her reasoning was as sharp as anyone who has ever been on the court. Different situation.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I have a question—which follows from the thread topic—on which I'm interested to read others' perspectives: when some people called for Ruth Bader Ginsburg to step down during Obama's presidency due to her advanced age and increased likelihood of passing away during a Republican president's term if she didn't step down during Obama's, were they being ageist or otherwise unreasonable? Why or why not?

That is a different situation. No one was calling for her to step down because she was suffering mental decline due to age. I don't remember anyone claiming that. On the contrary, her judgement, her insight, her reasoning was as sharp as anyone who has ever been on the court.
Different situation.

I'm beginning to believe that the flowering of "...ism" and "...ist" terms are the semantic bane of our age.

• Those who called for RGB to retire did so entirely because of her age. That is clearly ageism if (and only if) one allows the term to be used for those situations where a person's age is a compelling consideration. I prefer to reserve the term for those cases where that is not the case.
• Similarly, different-situationism (aka de minimus observationism or DMO) is best used sparingly.

 

[JIMMY12345]

from: Overwhelming majority of Americans think Biden is too old for another term: POLL.
"According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos' Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president. That figure includes 59% of Americans who think both he and former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, are too old and 27% who think only Biden is too old."

So given the above who are the Democrats going to replace him with? Or are they still going to let him run and lose?

Biden will stat the course and lose.Putin and Trump now try and change the story to Putin would like Biden to win.Not Putins poodle Trump.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm beginning to believe that the flowering of "...ism" and "...ist" terms are the semantic bane of our age.

• Those who called for RGB to retire did so entirely because of her age. That is clearly ageism if (and only if) one allows the term to be used for those situations where a person's age is a compelling consideration. I prefer to reserve the term for those cases where that is not the case.
• Similarly, different-situationism (aka de minimus observationism or DMO) is best used sparingly.

Do you mean RBG?

If so...