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A conversation; Should Catholics be part of Elon Musk’s Twitter?

metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
KW said:
I don't support capitol punishment.
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So, that's for confirming your "heresy".

So, where are you going to go since you've finally admitted you're going against the Church's teaching? It is you who needs to do some serious reflecting.

KW said:
CNN politics? I just told you you need to get better sources.
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How disingenuous of you. I post the fact of what Trump clearly said, which I also vividly remember well, and you stoop so low as to post the above instead of even checking out different sources.

Here's another:
While campaigning for president days after a terrorist attack in San Bernardino, Calif., Donald Trump called for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on."

That statement and others helped lead to sharp partisan attacks when Trump, a week after his inauguration, issued an executive order that triggered protests at airports nationwide. The Jan. 27, 2017 order temporarily prohibits from entering the United States virtually all people traveling on passports from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen..." -- PolitiFact | Is Donald Trump's executive order a 'Muslim ban'?

KW said:
There is nothing immoral, unCatholic, or unChristian about banning travel from nations that have a high population of terrorists.
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Not all predominately Musim countries have that reputation, and some have been our close allies.

KW said:
I hope you never teach Catholicism.
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I've been teaching it for 15 years now, but as I said before, I teach what the Church teaches.

KW said:
You are speaking for Catholicism here by claiming to be a Catholic on your banner.
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You are so confused. Again, the Church allows for personal discernment, and that also is found in the Catechism.

Maybe study instead of just spouting nonsense, so I'm leaving this "discussion" with you for a while as you are your own worst enemy.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
KW said:
I accept all that the Church teaches.
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Now you are clearly not telling the Truth as the Catechism clearly opposes capital punishment and yet you virtually go against that teaching.
 
KW

KW

Well-Known Member
metis said:
Now you are clearly not telling the Truth as the Catechism clearly opposes capital punishment and yet you virtually go against that teaching.
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How do I go against that teaching?

I accept it.
 
KW

KW

Well-Known Member
metis said:
You are so confused. Again, the Church allows for personal discernment, and that also is found in the Catechism.

Maybe study instead of just spouting nonsense, so I'm leaving this "discussion" with you for a while as you are your own worst enemy.
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Not with regard to doctrine.

You are mistaken, but I'm sure you mean well.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
KW said:
How do I go against that teaching?

I accept it.
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Oops, I misread your post, so sorry. However, in a previous discussion you still supported it as I commented on it then.

How about climate change?

Either way, I'm outta here for a while.
 
KW

KW

Well-Known Member
metis said:
Oops, I misread your post, so sorry. However, in a previous discussion you still supported it as I commented on it then.

How about climate change?

Either way, I'm outta here for a while.
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Climate change is not Catholic Doctrine, it is leftist propaganda.

Regarding capital punishment, I don’t agree with the logic behind the teaching, but I accept it.
 
Sheldon

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Twilight Hue said:
I don't see Twitter as privately owned, when it's a publicly traded enterprise.
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When we say privately owned here, we mean it's not state owned. However you are correct in the business sense a company that is publicly traded is not privately owned. Though in the case of Twitter it was owned by Jack Dorsey and Parag Agrawal, and soon by Elon Musk. The company has the right to decide who and what posts on it's platform, and set terms and conditions that users must agree to before use. Trump breached those t&c's.
 
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Sheldon

Sheldon

Veteran Member
KW said:
The Catholic Church opposes abortion and always has because it is murder of the an innocent person.
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It's only murder if it is unlawful, and I think it is a big stretch to call an insentient embryo blastocyst or foetus a person. Also calling an insentient clump pf cells innocent is rather meaningless, one could say the same of toe nail clippings.
 
KW

KW

Well-Known Member
Sheldon said:
It's only murder if it is unlawful, and I think it is a big stretch to call an insentient embryo blastocyst or foetus a person. Also calling an insentient clump pf cells innocent is rather meaningless, one could say the same of toe nail clippings.
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Murder has both a legal and a moral
definition.

Each fetus is a living human being with unique DNA.

The stage of life doesn’t change those facts.
 
C

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
pearl said:
It felt like we won back a lot of sanity and some space for warmth and humor with the removal of Donald Trump from the site, and now it’s very possible that he and a number of other pretty ill-intentioned voices will be returning and doing a lot of scary and awful things. It looks like a return to a very sad state of affairs.

I’m not sure I totally buy into people’s fears that under its new ownership, Twitter is going to turn into some sort of hellscape where unpopular views are censored. Even besides this Twitter development, I think people of a certain persuasion tend to demonize Musk without knowing precisely why. I’m not a huge fan of the guy; he attracts a following that tends to idolize “science” as the answer to all the world’s unanswerable questions; he could spend his money on way more meaningful causes. But I don’t know if he is the incarnation of evil and greed we’re led to think.
Roundtable: Should Catholics be part of Elon Musk’s Twitter? | America Magazine
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Clara Tea's opinion.

Trump, Musk, and Mike Lindell (My Pillow), et al, were censored (by the Cancel Culture?) on facebook, twitter, etc. Musk paid hundreds of billions of dollars to buy twitter to restore free speech. Ironically he is from South Africa, not America (land of free speech).

Free speech includes cussing, smut, wrong ideas presented as facts, and diverse political views. Yet, it is the American way, and everyone is allowed to counter assertions.

I believe that any forum that opens its doors to the general public should be required to let everyone speak/write.

After slavery was abolished by the Civil War, Jim Crow laws caused Blacks to not shop at certian stores, or pay exorbitant prices, until anti-Jim Crow laws were enacted. If Blacks get rights to shop at stores that open to the public, we should get free speech on public forums for the same reason.
 
F

Fallen Prophet

Well-Known Member
pearl said:
Because we live and move in the public marketplace why should it not be of interest in what changes may bring.
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I get it - but shouldn't we at least wait to see what changes are to be made before making any decision or trying to shame members of any religion into not partaking of the product?
 
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