A conversation; Should Catholics be part of Elon Musk’s Twitter?

[SomeRandom]

Twitter is and always will be a hellscape lol
The people hailing Elon Musk of all people as some sort of free speech Jesus makes me involuntarily roll my eyes
(Not directing that at anyone here, just a general observation.)

Twitter can kick off anyone it wants to. It is largely irrelevant if I agree with that or not. That’s just what it is.
I am entirely skeptical of whether or not Mr Musk will act in good faith and I’m equally skeptical that it will be internally consistent.
Barring something extreme like outright Neo Nazis or something.
If a user’s tweets generates clicks (and therefore revenue) said tweets will likely be allowed on the platform regardless of political persuasion or T&S.
Left, right or in between. They’re a giant corporation, they don’t care if you want to promote conspiracy theories or shout-out to your mother on Mother’s Day.
If a user’s continued behaviour becomes too inconvenient to their bottom line (or becomes illegal) no amount of cries of “my free speech” will save said user. Again doesn’t matter which side of the political aisle they hail from.

That’s just my two cents

 

[metis]

Climate change is not Catholic Doctrine, it is leftist propaganda.

Pope Francis on climate change: Time is of the essence - Vatican News

An encyclical is "Catholic Doctrine".

 

[pearl]

Free speech includes cussing, smut, wrong ideas presented as facts, and diverse political views. Yet, it is the American way, and everyone is allowed to counter assertions.

While I agree with your statement, I believe this to be a different America with an anything goes in the name of freedom.

 

[pearl]

I get it - but shouldn't we at least wait to see what changes are to be made before making any decision or trying to shame members of any religion into not partaking of the product?

I don't think shame comes into the matter, just a heads up of the possible directions a new management might take. We may all be surprised.

 

[1213]

One problem I see with those who follow Twitter, regardless of who owns it is the lack of doing one's own research as to the motivation of statements made.

That may be problem with all media. And I think first thing to teach about all media should be that listener has the responsibility to think what is the truth and not automatically accept anything they receive as truth, especially when it comes from the government.

 

[pearl]

That may be problem with all media. And I think first thing to teach about all media should be that listener has the responsibility to think what is the truth and not automatically accept anything they receive as truth, especially when it comes from the government.

Right, there's that old slogan, never believe what you hear, only half of what you see.

 

[Sheldon]

Murder has both a legal and a moral
definition.

Murder is defined as the illegal taking of one human life by another, you may want that to include abortion but in many places in the world it does not, and abortion have been demonstrated to be higher in countries where it terminations are illegal.

Each fetus is a living human being with unique DNA.

No they're not, and toe nail clipping and skin cells you shed daily have unique DNA.

The stage of life doesn’t change those facts.

Straw man, an embryo or balstocyst, or even a developing foetus remains part of a woman's body, is insentient, cannot feel emotional or physical pain, store memories form emotional attachments etc etc. Thus the stage of development demonstrably is significant, despite your arbitrary claim that ignores several facts, and makes an argument from assertion fallacy.

 

[Sheldon]

If Blacks get rights to shop at stores that open to the public, we should get free speech on public forums for the same reason.

A very strange false dichotomy, and the terminology seems more than a little racist. Who is we for a start? Forum owners have the legal right to set standards of use, and I hate to break this to you but America is not the only country that has free speech, nor was it the first.

 

[pearl]

cannot feel emotional or physical pain

I think that could be debatable.

 

[Sheldon]

Twitter is and always will be a hellscape lol

I'm inclined to agree, it has it's uses I suppose, but people who think it has any importance or relevance do make me smile. For the owners it's about generating revenue, hardly a shock given it is a business, most of the users I imagine view it either as harmless fun, or a place to vent. Some who have a following view it as a chance to massage their egos and disseminate their views. There are no laws against that per se.

The people hailing Elon Musk of all people as some sort of free speech Jesus makes me involuntarily roll my eyes

I'm glad someone said that, I don't particularly have an axe to grind with him, but he can sometimes be a little volatile and unpredictable shall we say, he strikes me at best as no less egotistical than your average billionaire.

Twitter can kick off anyone it wants to. It is largely irrelevant if I agree with that or not. That’s just what it is.

Absolutely, the histrionics when someone with a fanbase falls foul of Twitter's T&C's, is pretty amusing, as even a nobody with zero followers would likely have to ignore a slew of warnings first.

I am entirely skeptical of whether or not Mr Musk will act in good faith and I’m equally skeptical that it will be internally consistent.

Yes, he seems so obviously self serving I'm a little dubious as well, we will see. Though again I am bemused at how much importance people attach to the place.

If a user’s continued behaviour becomes too inconvenient to their bottom line (or becomes illegal) no amount of cries of “my free speech” will save said user. Again doesn’t matter which side of the political aisle they hail from.

That’s just my two cents

Again that seems to make perfect sense, nor would anyone with a substantial following that helped raise their revenue be banned arbitrarily, they'd likely receive a fair amount of latitude, and then be warned multiple times first, as was Trump of course. I got the impression he thought they would never dare ban him, especially while he was President.

 

[Sheldon]

I think that could be debatable.

Prior to 24 weeks of gestation, connections from the periphery to the cortex are not intact, and since the cortex is necessary for pain perception, it can be concluded that the foetus cannot experience pain in any sense prior to this gestation.

I'm not aware of anything to contradict this, and what I've read to support this claim usually amounts to little more then subjective rhetoric.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Removing Trump was an evil thing. It was anti-God and anti-freedom.

The "sad state of affairs" was Twitter subjectively choosing which opinions and worldviews were allowed to be shared on their platform.

That is what it has been for years.

I can't think of anything Musk has done or said that should lead to him being "demonized".

And I believe he has the right to spend his money in any way he deems fit.

No one has the right to tell him how to spend his money.

He sure ain't.
Why should who owns Twitter be a determining factor at all and why is religion even a component?

How is removing Trump anti-god? Is removing anyone anti-god or that ungodly man specifically?

 

[Sand Dancer]

Leftist Catholics who support the abortion party and oppose religious liberty should consider why they want to call themselves Catholics.

There is no one way to be Christian. The Bible has so many differing voices writing in it. Just do what you think your god wants you to. Religion is personal and individual.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Climate change is not Catholic Doctrine, it is leftist propaganda.

Regarding capital punishment, I don’t agree with the logic behind the teaching, but I accept it.

The Bible doesn't cover every subject. It's not supposed to. The Bible writers had little knowledge about the world around them.

 

[Ponder This]

You don't think they should enforce their terms of use?

What do you mean? Are you referring to this:
Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
Or do you mean something else?

 

[Sheldon]

Removing Trump was an evil thing. It was anti-God and anti-freedom.

Two of the most ludicrously false pieces of hyperbole I've ever seen.

 

[Fallen Prophet]

I don't think shame comes into the matter, just a heads up of the possible directions a new management might take. We may all be surprised.

No - I don't think there are going to be any surprises - at least not from Musk.

I think we are going to get exactly what Musk claims he wants - and that it is a very good thing.

 

[Fallen Prophet]

How is removing Trump anti-god? Is removing anyone anti-god or that ungodly man specifically?

Removing anyone for doing nothing but disagreeing with the "established narrative" is anti-God and anti-freedom.

 

[Fallen Prophet]

Two of the most ludicrously false pieces of hyperbole I've ever seen.

Why was Trump permanently banned from Twitter?

 

[Sheldon]

Why was Trump permanently banned from Twitter?

He broke the terms & conditions of use he agreed to when he set up his account, and despite multiple warnings, he persisted to do so. So they closed his account.

Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump