A New Dark Age For Europe

[ChristineM]

It doesn´t upset me, I agree with you.

I don know anything about your life, and don care to know.

Are you identifying yourself as a liberal muslim apologist ?

Not upset you? Then why deny me my rights?


I am identifying myself as me, i have no need to apologise

 

[ChristineM]

Seeing how in the Qu'ran, promotes lying and deceiving, So how is anyone to know if Muslims are speaking the truth?

Seems you know little of taqiyya and its use.

But how surprising is that?

 

[sooda]

Oh, he was.

No Aisha was born 10 years before the CALL.

 

[sooda]

Seeing how in the Qu'ran, promotes lying and deceiving, So how is anyone to know if Muslims are speaking the truth?

You sure don't know anything about Islam. I guess you are trying to reference taqiyya.. You see that a lot among ignorant people.

 

[2ndpillar]

It makes no sense to me that they would desire to create the very conditions they fled from. It also makes no sense to me that those who loathe western culture would flock to western nations.

Well, if they are living in poverty and starving, and their fellow Muslims are killing them, why not go to the land of the idolaters, collect their welfare, and then kill them, while all the time going around with a smile on your face.

( 9:5 ) And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners , and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush

 

[shmogie]

No Aisha was born 10 years before the CALL.

She her self says she married at 6 and ¨ came into the household at 9¨, Islamic scholars agree that this means the marriage was consummated.

Further, in the Koran, when speaking of divorce, mohammed says ¨ if the your wife has not reached puberty, you must wait 3 months to see if she is pregnant.¨ If you need the exact sura, I will be happy to provide it.

Marrying children in many muslim countries is sanctioned to this day.

 

[shmogie]

Not upset you? Then why deny me my rights?


I am identifying myself as me, i have no need to apologise

Why would I deny you your rights ? I am supporting total free speech. How does that deny you your rights ? Seems like it supports them.

 

[shmogie]

Hate and xenophobia have everything to do with it

What a stupid and irrelevant question. What have neo nazies tom do with it?

I guess it is just too deep for you.

 

[ChristineM]

Why would I deny you your rights ? I am supporting total free speech. How does that deny you your rights ? Seems like it supports them.

I quote you "They are entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."

That is your attempt to deny my rights no matter how you try to hide it behind the first amendment

 

[ChristineM]

I guess it is just too deep for you.

You can guess all you want,all it means is its a guess

 

[sooda]

She her self says she married at 6 and ¨ came into the household at 9¨, Islamic scholars agree that this means the marriage was consummated.

Further, in the Koran, when speaking of divorce, mohammed says ¨ if the your wife has not reached puberty, you must wait 3 months to see if she is pregnant.¨ If you need the exact sura, I will be happy to provide it.

Marrying children in many muslim countries is sanctioned to this day.

You have that completely screwed up. Aisha was between the ages of 17 and 19.. You have to wait three months to divorce your wife to determine whether or not she is pregnant.

Muslims don't marry any girl before puberty.. Historically they have NEVER done that. Choose a new subject.. You know zilch about Islam.

 

[ManSinha]

Seeing how in the Qu'ran, promotes lying and deceiving, So how is anyone to know if Muslims are speaking the truth?

Prove it - put up the quotes with linked references / screen shots and contexts -
If I am wrong I am happy to admit it -

 

[ChristineM]

Seeing how in the Qu'ran, promotes lying and deceiving, So how is anyone to know if Muslims are speaking the truth?

I am assuming from your screen name that you are christian.

You do, as a christian realise that when jesus said "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." He didnt put a clause in saying "except muslims and other neighbours you dont like" dont you?

 

[Notanumber]

Well, when you live with other humans you tend to have to mind your manners. And when you live in a civil society you don't get to do anything you want to anyone you want for any reason you want. No matter how much you hate them. Language is not a "get away with anything I like" card. Words can cause damage to the rights and the well being of us and others. So speech has to be held to the standards of a civil society, just like any other human activity does.

If someone’s ideology infringes on the rights of someone else, people should be allowed to comment about or even criticise that ideology without the fear of being branded a criminal.

What about the human rights of LGBT Muslims?

People can choose whether to follow an ideology but being LGBT is not a choice.

 

[Notanumber]

So no laws then but those in your own imagination.

I though so?

I must have a powerful imagination then.

 

[Notanumber]

Simple solution, dont hate.

Try telling that to Islam, hate is its middle name.

It even causes Muslims to fight amongst themselves.

 

[Cooky]

This is a commonly proposed tactic of a minority living in antipathy with the majority within a society. I wouldn't give it a lot of credence, as it pretty much never happens. What happens, instead, is the minority becomes more and more acculturated into the majority's cultural meme, and the desire to 'overwhelm the enemy' through biological proliferation evaporates.

Can you show an example of this, because I'd really like to believe you.

Is that what happened in Central and South America, where a Spanish minority took an entire continent and made it Spanish speaking?

 

[Notanumber]

I am assuming from your screen name that you are christian.

You do, as a christian realise that when jesus said "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." He didnt put a clause in saying "except muslims and other neighbours you dont like" dont you?

I wonder what Jesus would have made of Islam.

 

[Notanumber]

She her self says she married at 6 and ¨ came into the household at 9¨, Islamic scholars agree that this means the marriage was consummated.

Further, in the Koran, when speaking of divorce, mohammed says ¨ if the your wife has not reached puberty, you must wait 3 months to see if she is pregnant.¨ If you need the exact sura, I will be happy to provide it.

Marrying children in many muslim countries is sanctioned to this day.

I heard that he did some disgusting things to her before the marriage was consummated.

 

[Cooky]

I wonder what Jesus would have made of Islam.

He would have condemned it most likely.