A New Kind Of Trans

[Revoltingest]

Any dadblamed one it wants...

But the aftermath, oh.....

 

[BSM1]

But the aftermath, oh.....

"Durn Taco Bell..."

 

[allfoak]

Of course humans act like other animals. Our physiology and behaviour are very similar to other mammals in particular. We eat, drink, find shelter, play, reproduce, care for our young, and produce waste. On what basis do you think humans are not animals?

The ability to show empathy is what makes one human.
That excludes a large portion of those that call themselves human i'm afraid.

 

[FTNZ]

The ability to show empathy is what makes one human.
That excludes a large portion of those that call themselves human i'm afraid.

The evidence suggests that the proportion of humans who lack this ability is very small. However you are right, many people do not show enough empathy in some situations. That can be developed by education and other measures. Behaviours that suggest a form of empathy have been observed in many other animal species. The ability is obviously much more developed in humans because our brain has evolved that way.

 

[allfoak]

The evidence suggests that the proportion of humans who lack this ability is very small. However you are right, many people do not show enough empathy in some situations. That can be developed by education and other measures. Behaviours that suggest a form of empathy have been observed in many other animal species. The ability is obviously much more developed in humans because our brain has evolved that way.

The development of empathy and becoming human are not mutually exclusive.
While we all may have the ability to develop empathy, those then who are not actively developing it, are simply choosing to remain animals.

 

[FTNZ]

The development of empathy and becoming human are not mutually exclusive.
While we all may have the ability to develop empathy, those then who are not actively developing it, are simply choosing to remain animals.

You seem bitter about something. I am wondering what that is.

 

[allfoak]

You seem bitter about something. I am wondering what that is.

I often forget that women interpret things emotionally.
Sometimes it amazes me, sometimes it amuses me, and sometimes it does both.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You mean the inflammable one.

What self respecting Dragon would ever want to enter an inflammable restroom? =0)

 

[Parsimony]

This is called being an "otherkin", isn't it? I remember some man who had undergone extensive surgery and tattooing in order to look like a tiger as well.

 

[freethinker44]

The ability to show empathy is what makes one human.
That excludes a large portion of those that call themselves human i'm afraid.

That's discrimination.
Psychopaths are people too.

 

[freethinker44]

This is called being an "otherkin", isn't it? I remember some man who had undergone extensive surgery and tattooing in order to look like a tiger as well.

I believe the proper term is "unemployable".

 

[allfoak]

That's discrimination.
Psychopaths are people too.

I probably should rephrase that.
Everyone that is part of the "human" species has the "ability" to show empathy.
What i should have said is, many have yet to develop it to the point that it is even noticeable.
To this extent i would say they are not really much more than animals in a human body.

Once this ability is developed and used, then one can be considered human.
There has to be a dividing line somewhere.
If one acts like an animal....

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

People modifying their bodies to look like animals (real or mythological) is a very old practice. It's a shamanist/animist thing, ultimately.

 

[allfoak]

People modifying their bodies to look like animals (real or mythological) is a very old practice. It's a shamanist/animist thing, ultimately.

This may have some merit, but i would question whether it is done for that reason any more.
Many of the old Shaman lived at the mercy of Mother Nature, they had a deep understanding of what they were doing and why.
They used these practices to become one with their environment in order to survive as well as learn about themselves.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

This may have some merit, but i would question whether it is done for that reason any more.
Many of the old Shaman lived at the mercy of Mother Nature, they had a deep understanding of what they were doing and why.
They used these practices to become one with their environment in order to survive as well as learn about themselves.

The people who tend to do extensive body mods (in terms of piercings, tattoos, scarification, branding, etc; not fame whores getting a bunch of plastic surgery) tend to be involved in the neo-primitivist movement. They tend to have a neo-pagan spirituality. The ones who modify themselves to look like certain non-human animals feel a strong spiritual connection to that animal. Basically, that animal represents their soul.

 

[allfoak]

The people who tend to do extensive body mods (in terms of piercings, tattoos, scarification, branding, etc; not fame whores getting a bunch of plastic surgery) tend to be involved in the neo-primitivist movement. They tend to have a neo-pagan spirituality. The ones who modify themselves to look like certain non-human animals feel a strong spiritual connection to that animal. Basically, that animal represents their soul.

I understand this kind of thinking actually.
I have had experiences of meeting a part of myself like that.
I found it rather startling the first time it happened.
It happened once since then but it was not as intense.

I find it interesting that someone would want to externalize this experience.
It does not seem like a natural response.
I understand the desire for the soul to be manifested but that seems like a distortion of a real birth of our soul.
Becoming at-one with our soul-self is what it means for the soul to be born into this world.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I understand this kind of thinking actually.
I have had experiences of meeting a part of myself like that.
I found it rather startling the first time it happened.
It happened once since then but it was not as intense.

I find it interesting that someone would want to externalize this experience.
It does not seem like a natural response.
I understand the desire for the soul to be manifested but that seems like a distortion of a real birth of our soul.
Becoming at-one with our soul-self is what it means for the soul to be born into this world.

Well, they don't share the same spiritual views as you. They use their flesh as a canvas for self-expression.

 

[allfoak]

Well, they don't share the same spiritual views as you. They use their flesh as a canvas for self-expression.

I suppose that this is where the conversation must end.
I understand that others have differing "spiritual" views of course.
I also understand that it is all good and necessary.

I do not agree however with the notion that is ending this conversation.
I do not agree that because everyone is allowed to have their own "spiritual" views (and everyone is of course) that there are not "spiritual" views that are superior in nature and understanding to others.
While what i have said is controversial and of course debatable to most, this is how one comes to an understanding of these things.

I will refrain of course from suggesting what those views might be since this is also up to the individual to determine.
I would simply suggest at this time that this is a valid perspective and understanding like any other and that through the sharing and accepting of these perspectives is how we grow in understanding and wisdom.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I suppose that this is where the conversation must end.
I understand that others have differing "spiritual" views of course.
I also understand that it is all good and necessary.

I do not agree however with the notion that is ending this conversation.
I do not agree that because everyone is allowed to have their own "spiritual" views (and everyone is of course) that there are not "spiritual" views that are superior in nature and understanding to others.
While what i have said is controversial and of course debatable to most, this is how one comes to an understanding of these things.

I will refrain of course from suggesting what those views might be since this is also up to the individual to determine.
I would simply suggest at this time that this is a valid perspective and understanding like any other and that through the sharing and accepting of these perspectives is how we grow in understanding and wisdom.

I have no idea what you're talking about. So you think your views are superior than theirs, even when it comes to their own bodies and what to do with it? Well, that's nice, but it's ultimately irrelevant.

 

[allfoak]

I have no idea what you're talking about. So you think your views are superior than theirs, even when it comes to their own bodies and what to do with it? Well, that's nice, but it's ultimately irrelevant.

This is why the conversation has to end.
I never said anywhere in my post that my views were superior to anyone else's.

You said you did not understand what i said but had little trouble commenting on it.
Again, this is the reason that the converstion must end.