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A new pill for depression is out!!!

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-

The side effects you listed are mild compared to others such as sexual dysfunction, movement disorders (in the case of antipsychotics), extreme weight gain, etc.

Aside from the fact that side effects typically have to be warned against even if there's only a small possibility of their occurrence, depression can be so debilitating and dangerous to the point where side effects like those you mentioned are meek in comparison to what would happen if the depressed person didn't take any medications. That's why it's always important to weigh the potential risks and benefits of any given medication with a professional before deciding whether or not to take it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-
Compared to the side effects of some other anti-depression medications, those are pretty mild (not sure what a "deira" is though). And if you have a depressive disorder, and take no pleasure in things you normally would, struggle to accomplish responsibilities and basic living skills (such as hygiene, paying bills, and diet), and maybe even have a hard time just getting out of bed, the possible side-effects of anti-depressants in most cases are more than worth the risks as they can really help people in improving their lives and helping to find motivation and be able to again enjoy life. It's also important to note that in most cases the side effects of psychotropic medications are temporary and go away as your body adjusts to the medications.
Ultimately, as is the case with any and all medications, they all have potential side-effects and it is a question of weighing the risks versus the benefits.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-
Wow. Was it for this?

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Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-
I am not interested in medicine against depression as a rule, though, some need it.

However, I thought if a person isn't depressed already with this new medication, they sure would be after experiencing all the side effect. :D Then they really are going to need the medication! But, perhaps another one with less side effects! - a thimble of rum perhaps, or two, but not enough to make one drunk.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-

Depression just comes with living life in a way inharmonious to your nature, it doesn't need a pill. I used to pop pills, and while I felt better the issues were unresolved and if the silly medication ran out or stopped working because of something else I consumed deactivating it - holy ****ing hell. Yeah, so anyway finding your spiritual center and grounding your being in being at one with your own nature is basically how I got out of the funk. Took a good long time to figure that out, of course, lol.

The psychiatric treatment of depression is just laughable at best, imho, because it doesn't actually help the person. If your problems are still there at the end of the day, you really can't get away from it and just popping pills to delay the inevitable fact that you need to get your **** sorted really helps nothing.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Depression just comes with living life in a way inharmonious to your nature
Depression has many sources. Some have a genetic predisposition, some have bi-polar disorder, and some have been severely abused and/or traumatized. Sometimes people are living inharmonious to themselves, but the roots and causes of depression should not and cannot be generalized.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Depression has many sources. Some have a genetic predisposition, some have bi-polar disorder, and some have been severely abused and/or traumatized. Sometimes people are living inharmonious to themselves, but the roots and causes of depression should not and cannot be generalized.

The first key to losing a battle with depression is thinking you can't beat it. :D

Sure, some people have medical issues with amplify the problem and so did I. (Medically, bipolar, though I am "growing out of that" - as commonly happens, people don't discuss that either... Bipolar physical aspects often resolves naturally in middle age...) Nothing short of an immense effort of self-introspection and focusing toward your life goals will change anything. I could have decided I was beaten and helpless, but instead I decided I am in charge of my destiny and will get as much of what I want in life as I can have. I guess in the end which outlook do you feel is healthier? I'm not saying that to criticize others or anything mind you. I am just sharing that it is possible to overcome any mental weakness provided you are willing to do everything it takes. The alternative is rotting in your self-pity party, or taking this as some sort of oh-poor-me identity and buying into the bull**** that these doctors will help you. They can't, they won't, and the only person that can help you is yourself. Once you find your happiness even your dark days aren't so dark, and that's the entire message of my last post and this one.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I don't think that's science.

Psychology is largely bull****, unfortunately. Can't fault them for trying, but.. Gotta take it all with a grain of salt. If you can't find an abnormality on a scanner or with some sort of actual physical test mostly likely it's just educated guessing. Their treatment programs are mostly allelopathic and as a result largely focus on manifested symptoms rather than than root causes. Any honest researcher in the field will admit this much in that they are mostly in the business of medicating aggravations.

Personally, I consider myself a victim of this methodology and am so glad I decided to stop trusting them - my life improved greatly ever since.

P.S. - And, what virtue is obtained by trusting science when it doesn't work? It's only a model... :D
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Psychology is largely bull****, unfortunately.
For something that's "bull****," it seems to work pretty good in many areas. Sure, it's still a new science and doesn't have as long of a history as something like physics, but to dismiss it in such ways ignores the fact the field of psych has made tremendous progress, in good and bad areas. Advertising research, there is no denying it has an appalling effectiveness. Organizational psychology has done wonders in improving work place environments. Psychiatry, the field that deals with medications as psychiatrists are the MDs who can prescribe medications (as can advance practice nurses) even that field has come a very long way over the past century.
or taking this as some sort of oh-poor-me identity and buying into the bull**** that these doctors will help you.
Some psychologists and doctors care. Some don't. Insurance and the cost of care complicate things, but in any health field the quality of care revolves around the efforts of both doctor and patient. A doctor has to take time with their patients and care about them (and, admittedly, there aren't enough of them), and the patient has to be willing to comply and communicate with their doctor. They're both still human, and mistakes will happen, but lots of people have been helped by the fields of psychiatry and psychology. But, ultimately, it is up to the client to help themselves and help their doctor help them, or to rot in misery either expecting a magic cure that doesn't exist or refusing to get better.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Some psychologists and doctors care. Some don't. Insurance and the cost of care complicate things, but in any health field the quality of care revolves around the efforts of both doctor and patient. A doctor has to take time with their patients and care about them (and, admittedly, there aren't enough of them), and the patient has to be willing to comply and communicate with their doctor. They're both still human, and mistakes will happen, but lots of people have been helped by the fields of psychiatry and psychology. But, ultimately, it is up to the client to help themselves and help their doctor help them, or to rot in misery either expecting a magic cure that doesn't exist or refusing to get better.

Whether they care or not is irrelevant, mostly, though I guess it's good that they often do. :D As far as science, well some science is Quantum Mechanics, and some is Gender Studies. Not all sciences are created equally... :D Yes, it will continue to advance and improve our lives but we should be ready to challenge it - it's not a new religion, it functions on models and the models break and are dynamic. As soon as any variables change, so can the model and everything we knew is basically worthless. I'd put my top four worthless majors: Any Language That's not Chinese, Liberal Arts, Gender Studies, and Psychology.

The focus of psychological training pre-MD is talking people up and out of ****, not helping them. While it invariably helps to talk to someone, it doesn't exactly fix your problems - most of them do not offer advice they just sit and listen, and listen. Obviously, I've dealt with it before... So frustrating... lol Likewise, I don't think I'd listen to their damn advice anyway - backfire effect is as real here, as anywhere else. :D Similarly, you have the idea that psychology can help your problems in every case or that maybe my ideas on the subject are new agey or something. I doubt you will see it my way or something, or at the very least just think I am just an aberration in the statistics and typical results department. I'm not an "out-lier" so much as someone that spent a lot of time trying to understand themselves, and what to do about it. I think anyone can as long as they don't have a drastic physical-based problem, retrain their mind to work as they need. And, I try to be a spiritual person, but even if someone is an atheist or whatever at least they can believe in themselves... I think religion has nothing to do with it - we all have to determine things like purpose so we can benchmark ourselves and keep score. It's also important to know these things just to know what direction to walk, and if you are walking the wrong way always from your goals, of course, you will be miserable. If you make yourself a wage-slave, for example, you are probably miserable. If you leech of free government benefits, you probably aren't happy with that either. People just need some sense of fulfillment or accomplishment to be lifted up. Find someone depressed? Quiz them - it's always **** like:

1) Welfare mooch

2) Fry's with that job

3) Single, divorced, or widowed/widower. It's easier to be happier when you live with someone who won't let you stay in the funk.

4) Taking mentally destabilizing drugs like caffeine, weed, or alcohol. Also, acetaminophen.

5) Physically disabled, but all in on the pity party rather than seeing it as a challenge to overcome.

6) Absolutely no kids, and no cats don't count. Sort of the same as #3, but even more importantly you have to stop thinking about yourself at all.

7) Atheist. Most atheists pretend to be happy online, they're not really happy. :D I'm not saying you have to have a path, I'm saying it helps the mood. This increases your chances of being miserable, but doesn't assure it. When I say "think" they're happy, I mean the only happy they know is being free of an oppressive religion - they don't know the happiness of finding an open and accepting one that is non-dogmatic. :D

8) Transgender. (Getting more common.) This can be not so large a factor, but I've seen it enough to mention it these days. I have nothing against Trans of any form, I just note a pattern. Gender dysphoria is probably a struggle I just can't even understand, but I can see the effects on others.

I'm already to the wall of text, but any one of these things doesn't make you a depressed loser - just increases the likelihood you are depressed. Don't construe any of that above to be picking on anyone, that's not the intent, it is just observation. I feel these moods are actually more a product of acting out of harmony with your nature: whether you consider that to simply be your "goals" in life, or something more spiritual like a soul/spirit/etc is irrelevant, it generally holds true. Fear is simply not an excuse when the anxiety is merely a phantom, even when I was at my worst I knew I was basically full of **** and afraid of being afraid to some extent. Depression really is a product of self-hate, and self-denial. You figure those two things out, it goes away... No drugs, no doctors, no nothing.
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Another advertisement I saw a few days ago stated that this new drug advertised to improves memory was found in jellyfish.

Clearly no one had any idea what effects this compound found in jellyfish would have on humans until they tried it on humans.

People, this is not science at work, this is an old practice of injecting the Genii big with a new drug to see what happens next. Only now with FDA approval, they are bypassing the pig and using us instead !!

I just find this alarming so I decided to bring it up. This relieves me of any guilt so now I can move on :)-
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The focus of psychological training pre-MD is talking people up and out of ****, not helping them.
It does deal with helping them. Such as, when helping them sort life issues out, making suggestions to them, and more-or-less manipulating them into a guided conversation that leaves them feeling it was their efforts and decisions that helped set them on track. It ultimately is their own effort, and you can't help everyone, but the "goal" is to get clients to think about things and those with motivation will take the needed steps. Those without, they waist their time but the clinician still gets paid. The "mantra" of sorts is that a clinician can fix nothing, they should avoid "righting," and refrain from telling a client what to do and instead make suggestions to them and ask them questions that way they feel they are the focus of therapy and the one driving their own success. Sometimes it's asking them to think about the influence of their peers, sometimes it's walking them through their thoughts.
My own example is my therapist, she's very good at basically "remolding" what I say, and pointing things out and asking questions that help me see where I've been making excuses, have been too guarded, and simple things I things I can do differently to make improvements. And, yes, it has helped tremendously.

Only now with FDA approval, they are bypassing the pig and using us instead !!
I'm not the biggest fan of the FDA, but drugs they approve have already been tested on humans. It's not a 100% safe guard, but it's entirely inaccurate to say FDA approval allows experimenters and drug developers to bypass initial testing requirements, which generally start with animals and then move onto volunteer clinical trials (and there are many loops to jump through when doing such experiments).
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-
I recall being in America for a couple of weeks and the advertised side affects of literally anything shocked me as an outsider. Yeah we have small print on all of our meds advertised too, but America takes it to the goddamned moon and back. Whether that is merely a reflection of their litigious culture or something else, I won't say since I don't know. But seriously the advertised side affects of anything in America had me on edge just as a given. So now such an advertisement does not phase me in the slightest.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-
Drug ads have to list every side effect that showed up in clinical trials. Don't assume that every person on the drug will get every side effect listed in the ad.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-

One of the side effects of nurofen and several other headache cures is headache.

I have a relative with schizophrenia, his tablets come with a heart attack warning.

It always helps to read the enclosed leaflet.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Today I saw on TV an advertisement for a new medication for depression.

Advertised side effect’s:

Nausea
skin flushing
headache
Deira
Vomiting
Swelling of hands/feet
Blurred vision

The above is an actual medication as are the side effects.

Is this for real or was the advertiser just playing a joke?

Anyone seen/read anything similar?

BTW what depressed me the most was reading this post :)-
Probably would cause thoughts of suicide too.

I always get a chuckle out of the side effects.
 
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