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A rare occurence from God
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I didn't say you know your heart. You say you know my heart.
OK. What does kingship mean? To be obeyed. Right?
So, crown means kingship and kingship means to obey him. Tell us about the time that Jesus was not to be obeyed.
Yes and accepted His New Covenant.
Christ the Son returned as the 'Glory of God', the Father is Baha'u'llah. The Greatest Name Baha = 9
All we can know of God are His given Names and Attributes as revealed by all the Messengers of God.
Regards Tony
kjw47
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The wise place the king of kings above all other kings. And listen to him-FIRST-everytime. The kings of the earth fail to do so.
kjw47
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kjw47
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Are you actually trying not to understand?
Jesus received a crown, the kingship, thus, to be obeyed. WHEN was it God's will that he NOT BE obeyed? In other words, when he received a crown it meant that he was to be obeyed but I understand there never was one second in the history of life that he wasn't to be obeyed. Right?
Yes they did indeed.
Baha'u'llah wrote to them all from prision and called them all to the New Covenant.
You can Read the Letters Addressed to them and all Humanity here;
The Summons of the Lord of Hosts | Bahá’í Reference Library
Regards Tony
That Jesus is said to have received a crown means NOTHING! Because it has always and forever been the will of God for him to be obeyed.
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Please see my previous posts. #531 and #529.
Yes, this is the 'Day of Jehovah', the King of Kings has come with a New Covernant from our One God.
God is above all Names and Attributes.
Regards Tony
Mt Carmel has witnessed the 'Glory of God'. The Law now goes out from Zion and all nations flow up the mountain of the lord.
All going well, I will also again flow up this Mountain in December.
Regards Tony
djhwoodwerks
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Correct, but the conquering white horse rider starts off the trib, so what is Jesus doing starting the trib by conquering what?
kjw47
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Yes it is very important for everyone to learn and apply ALL that Jesus taught. After all A very rare occurrence points all to do so. At Jesus baptism, God spoke from heaven--This is my son, the beloved in whom I am well pleased--LISTEN TO HIM. Few know what he taught. I show them and most claiming to serve him reject what he taught. Because they do not like it.
kjw47
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Jesus is doing things all along. YHWH(Jehovah) does it all through Jesus. ( Acts 2:22) Revelation is Gods will--it will all occur. We are far along into it.
Why do you do that?
Oeste
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That's not true and you know it KJW! Why do you make stuff up?
They most certainly taught it was the 144,000 "class", who as a whole were responsible for feeding the sheep "proper food at the proper time".
Let's do a quick reality check:
“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings.” (Matthew 24:45-47. New World Translation, emphasis added).
There it is, right in your own bible. No sub-set of the "faithful and discreet slave" called the "Governing Board" but the entire slave class:
“Just as all members of ancient Israel formed one ‘servant,’ so also all anointed Christians on earth at any one time form ONE ‘faithful and discreet slave,’” (Watchtower, November 1, 2007, p. 30, emphasis added).
So why did your Organization tell us it's all the "faithful and discreet slave" who gives "food at the proper time" but now tells us it's only the "Governing Board"? Also, why did the Governing Board split the slave in two, and where is the biblical support? Have they received "new light" that contradicts scripture?
When the master returns and finds some of the "faithful and discreet slave" giving food, while others refuse or fail to do so, won't he be upset? If not, please re-read Matthew 24:45-47 and tell us who the Happy slave is, and then read Matthew 24:48-51 which discusses the slave who doesn't fulfill their duty. Is the Governing Board setting the rest of the "faithful and discreet slave" up?
Since it it the Master who discharged this duty to the slave, how is it that one slave tells the other not to fulfill his duty while the Master is away? How can one slave tell another slave "you don't get to feed the sheep" when the Master has stated otherwise? Isn't this slave acting wickedly?
Also, if your Organization's interpretation is correct, why does the passage read "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave..." instead of "Who really are the faithful and discreet slaves..."??? In other words, why are you adding slaves?
Lastly, while you're explaining to us why "They never taught that" when we clearly see they did, can you explain why the Organization suggested it was Charles Taze Russell...by himself...who was the "discreet slave"?:
"Thousands of the readers of Pastor Russell's writings believe that he filled the office of "that faithful and wise servant," and that his great work was giving to the Household of Faith meat in due season. His modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation," (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1919, p. 357).
Is this another instance of something that was never taught but was?
djhwoodwerks
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You avoided my question, not surprised tho.
My question: If the white horse at the beginning of the tribulation is Jesus/Michael, what is He going out to conquer? It's not satan, nor the beast, nor the false prophet, so what is He conquering?