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A rare occurence from God

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Get yourself a life while you can.
I can assure you, both @Tumah and I have lives. We don't feel one bit intimidated by your assertions. In fact, all this does is say more about you and your faith that it feels the need to try to convert as many people as possible to make itself feel secure.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
No my point was--99% claiming to be Christian don't even know what Jesus actually taught. His teachings prove 99% of those religions are in that boat.

Think about it this way: 1% people (moses, christ, abraham, etc) know god; the father. 99% you, me, and this present humanity only 2500 years later, it seems, all of the sudden does not.

How can you, as a full body of christ not you as an individual, can become part of that few?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Ask them. Then prove my figure is in error.
Prove it? Where did you get it? To get a real figure you need to do the research. I know you didn't do the research. How do I know? It would take hundreds of people and many thousands of dollars to collect enough data to come to a decent conclusion. Maybe even thousands of people and millions of dollars.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Jesus was the one who taught--FEW will find the road-- Not all claiming to be Christian are--Matt 7:21-23
Maybe only the 144,000 are really on that road. Then their blessings rain on us. Or, they are supposed to rain on us.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Get yourself a life while you can.
I think you mean get yourself obeying the governing body like a slave and learn to believe that it is the only way to be happy. It's what they teach. I wonder if they know?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
To get eternal life one must know-The Father-YHWH(Jehovah) and Jesus( John 17:3) most are taught to stop at Jesus--they cant win then.

Depending on your view, some Christians feel that when Jesus returns, everyone will have a chance to accept him at that time.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
At Jesus baptism, God spoke from heaven( very rare) and said--This is my son the beloved in whom I am well pleased--LISTEN TO HIM.
This was so to show us Jesus was the one Prophet like Moses whom God promised to send. (Deuteronomy 18:18-19)

1)Matt 6:33-- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added. ( sustenance, covering, spirituality)Matt 6)-- The Father would provide those things.
2)Matt 5:5-- Happy are the meek for they will inherit the EARTH. ( Psalm 37:9-11,29)-- this has to be to the great multitude.
3)The Lords prayer--Hallowed be thy(Father) name ( YHWH(Jehovah)
But who is the "Arm of the Lord"? The Arm of the Lord is always called salvation and it's Yeshua. (Isaiah 52:10; Isaiah 53:1; John 12:38)

4) Jesus teaches he has a God-his Father- John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- so does Paul- 2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 15:24-28, 1Cor8:6--Peter- 1Peter1:3--John at Rev 1:6--- One of the most taught teachings in the nt--Jesus has a God, his Father.
5) Jesus clearly teaches--at John 17: 1-6,26-- The one who sent him=Father( John 5:30) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--Verse 6= YHWH(Jehovah) 26= YHWH(Jehovah)
6) Making John 4:22-24 an everyday accomplishment in a true followers life.

Do you believe Jesus?
Yes. The Father is the only true God and Jesus is the Father manifest. Because He is in human form so He has a God. When you confess that Jesus is Lord you do so to the glory of the Father. No one has the Father without acknowledging the Son but whoever acknowledges the Son is who has the Father.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I can assure you, both @Tumah and I have lives. We don't feel one bit intimidated by your assertions. In fact, all this does is say more about you and your faith that it feels the need to try to convert as many people as possible to make itself feel secure.


Actually anyone who knows the bible and Jesus, knows 100% --Jesus started the work-Luke 10--Acts 20:20-- it does not stop until the end. Matt 24:14)--- the greatest work a mortal can ever do.( Matt 16:24)
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Actually anyone who knows the bible and Jesus, knows 100% --Jesus started the work-Luke 10--Acts 20:20-- it does not stop until the end. Matt 24:14)--- the greatest work a mortal can ever do.( Matt 16:24)
Je m'en fous.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Think about it this way: 1% people (moses, christ, abraham, etc) know god; the father. 99% you, me, and this present humanity only 2500 years later, it seems, all of the sudden does not.

How can you, as a full body of christ not you as an individual, can become part of that few?


One becomes a true follower by being taught by the teachers Jesus appointed here on earth in these last days--The faithful and discreet slave who give food( spiritual) at the proper time. Taught and applied.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
One becomes a true follower by being taught by the teachers Jesus appointed here on earth in these last days--The faithful and discreet slave who give food( spiritual) at the proper time. Taught and applied.
Wolves in sheep's clothing are known by their fruits. Did you know that wisdom is not listed as a fruit of God's spirit?

I understand that Jehovah's Witnesses obey their governing body because they can see that those men are wise. But, are they kind? How do you know? Do they spread joy? Are they peaceable? Are they humble?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Prove it? Where did you get it? To get a real figure you need to do the research. I know you didn't do the research. How do I know? It would take hundreds of people and many thousands of dollars to collect enough data to come to a decent conclusion. Maybe even thousands of people and millions of dollars.


OR--- they can believe Jesus who compared these last days to Noahs day( 99% minimum) mislead)--)The reason he said--- FEW will find the road)------8 humans found it in Noahs day.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Maybe only the 144,000 are really on that road. Then their blessings rain on us. Or, they are supposed to rain on us.



Jesus was speaking of everyone combined in his statement. Because it went on to say--because MANY have entered the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I think you mean get yourself obeying the governing body like a slave and learn to believe that it is the only way to be happy. It's what they teach. I wonder if they know?


That would be very wise-Luke 10:16-- if one accepts and listens to Jesus real teachers they listen to Jesus and God as well--or vica versa.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
1)Matt 6:33-- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom

You've been misled to think that says, "keep on seeking", it doesn't! You have to understand that no one was a Christian or saved or whatever you want to call them. For Jesus to tell the crowds to, "keep on seeking" means they were already seeking, which wasn't the case. Jesus said, "seek first"!
 
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