Koldo
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Alright. My question is: How is it a matter of freedom to be able to mistake a falsehood for truth?
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A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)
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Alright. My question is: How is it a matter of freedom to be able to mistake a falsehood for truth?
I think there was other way, but people chose the hard way. They could have asked directly from God and learn like children. Apparently people were too proud and vain for that.
I believe the reason is that we learn what evil means. And then it can be seen who are righteous and who are not. And as the Bible tells, eternal life is for righteous.
These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23
Evil is actually nothing, it is like darkness or emptiness, lack of good. It doesn’t need to be created, it is what is left when good is rejected.
This is nonsense, of course.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Why would we need to either ask anything to God or learn by ourselves? Can't God magically grant knowledge?
Koldo
Outstanding Member
This answer is all over the place. Let me ask about the final part: Why can't eternal life be granted to everyone?
I believe it is only for righteous, because they have the wisdom of the just, they want to do what is good and right. If unrighteous would get it, they would turn it into eternal suffering for all.
I don’t think we need to, but in the beginning, people wanted to know evil which is why we are now in this situation.
Please explain why?
Koldo
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Koldo
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Why couldn't God prevent people from turning eternal life into eternal suffering?
Because it would make apathy as bad as deliberate evil.
There are people in this world that are completely unknown to you - not only do not have good will toward them, you're incapable of it. We can't direct goodwill to something if we don't even know it exists.
Do you think your attitude toward people who you aren't aware of is as bad as, say, murderous rage toward them?
I think it could be possible. But, I don’t think we are evil, or lacking good, if we don't care about something we don't know. Also, even if we know that there are people in some other country, and we can’t help them, it is not necessary evil from us if we don’t help. I think we are lacking good, if we don’t do good for those who are near us that we know exist and that we could help.
I think He can and will prevent it, but it means they are not part of it. And I think they are not part of it, because they would not want to be part of it, because they want something else. I think it is good that God has given freedom and don’t force people to live in His place, with His rules.
No, I meant, here we can learn what evil means, and we were sent to this place, because people wanted to know evil. I think this could be compared to the Matrix, a system where people can experience things, while soul is in safe and can’t be destroyed by anything of this world.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
If people wanted to know evil, why didn't God grant us that knowledge right away?
Koldo
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Do you mean that many of us are living in His place while the rest of us are stuck here because we wanted something else? What exactly?
Separation from God and His way.
I think it is because it is not necessary and it is not nice.