A Savior and Unconditional Love

[Fool]

would a universal savior, an unconditional loving being be linked exclusively to anyone religion, belief system vs another?


isn't it more important what they do, than what they wear?

 

[Sir Joseph]

would a universal savior, an unconditional loving being be linked exclusively to anyone religion, belief system vs another?

isn't it more important what they do, than what they wear?

There may be other religions that allow multiple paths to God or a future paradise of some sort, but Christianity is certainly inconsistent with that notion.

Understand, that most religions are based on works - you must live a certain way or do something to earn your way to God or paradise. This is legalistic bad news that enslaves people to certain faiths or churches.
Christianity is about God and man's relationship. God created us to love him but sin wrecked it. To restore that relationship, he manifested himself with his creation and offered a perfect sacrifice of himself to make us righteous again with him.

It's hard for people to grasp the concept of love and grace from God, but it's a simple message of Good News. He loved us enough to pardon our sins and restore an eternal relationship with him, but it can only be done through faith in Jesus Christ's righteousness and work on the cross, not our own righteousness or works.

Believe + Accept = Become

With other religions, you spend a lifetime trying to be saved through works, not knowing if you ever are because one's own righteousness is never perfect. With Christianity, we're saved immediately by faith, based upon acceptance of Jesus' righteousness and sacrifice for us. That's why there is no other way to God but Jesus, because he's the only one qualified to have paid the price for our sins. If we reject Jesus and his gift of love and grace, we reject God and his plan of redemption for us.

 

[Fool]

There may be other religions that allow multiple paths to God or a future paradise of some sort, but Christianity is certainly inconsistent with that notion.

Understand, that most religions are based on works - you must live a certain way or do something to earn your way to God or paradise. This is legalistic bad news that enslaves people to certain faiths or churches.
Christianity is about God and man's relationship. God created us to love him but sin wrecked it. To restore that relationship, he manifested himself with his creation and offered a perfect sacrifice of himself to make us righteous again with him.

It's hard for people to grasp the concept of love and grace from God, but it's a simple message of Good News. He loved us enough to pardon our sins and restore an eternal relationship with him, but it can only be done through faith in Jesus Christ's righteousness and work on the cross, not our own righteousness or works.

Believe + Accept = Become

With other religions, you spend a lifetime trying to be saved through works, not knowing if you ever are because one's own righteousness is never perfect. With Christianity, we're saved immediately by faith, based upon acceptance of Jesus' righteousness and sacrifice for us. That's why there is no other way to God but Jesus, because he's the only one qualified to have paid the price for our sins. If we reject Jesus and his gift of love and grace, we reject God and his plan of redemption for us.

jesus wasn't christian. such is the irony of the christian. there is no sacrifice in unconditional love. sinners and dualists want a sacrifice to absolve themselves. even in revelation it mentions jews. it doesn't mention christians

the dualist christian basically absolves the requirement given at the end to love one another as i loved you. that is a work that overrides any idea of a sacrifice. because a monist would recognize itself in all as other, john 14:20. the dualist would not.

matthew 9:13


so if you are doing works that are for a quid pro purpose you've missed the point.

but if self is doing the work of god, of love, matthew 3:8 then behold the kingdom is at hand. a choice has to be made and being neither hot or cold isn't excuse




everyone is judged upon their works, otherwise no one would go to hell in the christian ideology


matthew 7 says it all about works.

having faith without works is just depraved indifference

 

[Valjean]

You'd have to explain "savior." The meaning would vary wi different religious mythologies.
I suppose a universal, loving deity of some sort is possible, but I can't think of one, offhand.

The Christian deity is said to be a savior, but his love is very, very conditional. In fact,he seems Pretty cruel, impulsive, and petty.

 

[Fool]

You'd have to explain "savior." The meaning would vary wi different religious mythologies.
I suppose a universal, loving deity of some sort is possible, but I can't think of one, offhand.

The Christian deity is said to be a savior, but his love is very, very conditional. In fact,he seems Pretty cruel, impulsive, and petty.

the dualist believer would project that type of savior, yes. the monist, reciprocitist, recognizing other as self would be more conscientious. namaste?

 

[pearl]

jesus wasn't christian.

And I doubt He ever had in mind creating a new religion, but His intent was to renew His own.

 

[Fool]

And I doubt He ever had in mind creating a new religion, but His intent was to renew His own.

to return the lost sheep home, but he often stepped outside of his culture to return other lost sheep not of that exact folding. the action, enfolding, is more important than the fold.

to sit at the table with abraham isn't necessarily to be a jew

 

[pearl]

to return the lost sheep home, but he often stepped outside of his culture to return other lost sheep not of that exact folding. the action, enfolding, is more important than the fold.

If one looks closely at these 'outside' of the Jews, Jesus only responded to 'their' faith in Him.
The incident with the Canaanite woman in Matthew 15.
When his mother comes to him at the wedding feast of Cana pleading the case of the couple who have run out of wine, Jesus pronounces that his hour has not yet come. But, moved by the plea and faith of Mary, he acts. When he encounters a Samaritan among the 10 lepers, he heals (Luke 17:11-19), even though his mission is to Israel and not to Samaritans. Moved by the faith of a gentile centurion, Jesus heals the man's servant (Matthew 8:5-13) in anticipation of the graces to come through Jesus' death and resurrection.

 

[Fool]

If one looks closely at these 'outside' of the Jews, Jesus only responded to 'their' faith in Him.
The incident with the Canaanite woman in Matthew 15.
When his mother comes to him at the wedding feast of Cana pleading the case of the couple who have run out of wine, Jesus pronounces that his hour has not yet come. But, moved by the plea and faith of Mary, he acts. When he encounters a Samaritan among the 10 lepers, he heals (Luke 17:11-19), even though his mission is to Israel and not to Samaritans. Moved by the faith of a gentile centurion, Jesus heals the man's servant (Matthew 8:5-13) in anticipation of the graces to come through Jesus' death and resurrection.

john 1:11 is null?

 

[soulsurvivor]

would a universal savior, an unconditional loving being be linked exclusively to anyone religion, belief system vs another?

isn't it more important what they do, than what they wear?

He would probably not be linked to any one religion throughout his mission. However, he will be born with some religion although he may not seek to propagate it.

Many people believe that the next Savior/Messiah will be born as a Muslim. It remains to be seen how Christians, Hindus, Jews etc will react to that.