A simple question for creationists.

[PennyKay]

This is a really simple and probably obvious question to ask creationists (or anybody who doesn't think evolution is correct), but one to which I can not ever recollect obtaining an answer to.

My question is simply, how do you explain fossils?

It may sound like a daft question to ask, but it honestly does baffle me.

Please give your honest opinions

 

[Man of Faith]

Fossils are creatures that have died and then their bones become fossilized. Any other questions?

 

[tumbleweed41]

Fossils are creatures that have died and then their bones become fossilized. Any other questions?

I think she wanted your explanation on how the fossil record overwhelmingly supports Biological Evolution and the Theory of Evolution while contradicting nearly every claim made by Creationists.

 

[orcel]

I'm probibly not the type of creationist you are looking fpor answers from, but am answering to make sure you are aware that there are creationists like me out here. I am a creationinst who accepts the evolution as a valid and very likely theory. After all as you suggested the evidence is prominent.

To clarify i believe a literal interpritation of Gen. 1, but I do not believe this rules out evolution. These concepts only appear mutully exclusive when we limit God to human understanding.

 

[chinu]

This is a really simple and probably obvious question to ask creationists (or anybody who doesn't think evolution is correct), but one to which I can not ever recollect obtaining an answer to.

My question is simply, how do you explain fossils?

It may sound like a daft question to ask, but it honestly does baffle me.

Please give your honest opinions

Fossils are moving towards Soil.

_/\_
Chinu

 

[Man of Faith]

I think she wanted your explanation on how the fossil record overwhelmingly supports Biological Evolution and the Theory of Evolution while contradicting nearly every claim made by Creationists.

Actually the fossil record supports creation. We have fossils of creatures that are alive today with no changes. No fossil can be shown to have any direct ancestor or descendant relationship with any other fossil. We have fossils with DNA which validates a young earth. We have fossils of creatures that were in struggles with other creatures when they died which show a quick burial. We have marine fossils on just about every mountain top which validates a global flood.

The fossil record doesn’t support all the evolution that supposedly took place, even Darwin admitted that. Other evolutionists have had to admit this also which is how the theory of punctuated equilibrium came about.

 

[outhouse]

No fossil can be shown to have any direct ancestor or descendant relationship with any other fossil.

False and not based from ignorance on the subject at hand becuase we have shown you this evidence already

that makes your statement a L__ __

 

[`mud]

Forget those figs, Eve; wer'e having some Rex ala'carte for dinner !
Where'd I put the pitch, and the matches ?
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hey Eve, why the fig leaves ?
~
`mud

 

[Quintessence]

I'm not a literalistic Biblical creationist, so to me there is nothing to explain. Evolution itself is a divine force. Fossils are just an example of that creation occurring. As has already been said, not all types of creationism (or creationists) are in opposition to scientific truths.

But I have heard that some of the literalistic types who do think evolution is an affront to their beliefs think that fossils were put there as a test of faith.

 

[PolyHedral]

To clarify i believe a literal interpritation of Gen. 1, but I do not believe this rules out evolution. These concepts only appear mutully exclusive when we limit God to human understanding.

The Bible does implicitly list the Earth's age as around 10,000 years. Surely God would have communicated more clearly if that were wrong?

 

[tumbleweed41]

Actually the fossil record supports creation. We have fossils of creatures that are alive today with no changes. No fossil can be shown to have any direct ancestor or descendant relationship with any other fossil. We have fossils with DNA which validates a young earth. We have fossils of creatures that were in struggles with other creatures when they died which show a quick burial. We have marine fossils on just about every mountain top which validates a global flood.

The fossil record doesn’t support all the evolution that supposedly took place, even Darwin admitted that. Other evolutionists have had to admit this also which is how the theory of punctuated equilibrium came about.

That's cute.
Do you have any verifiable scientific sources to back up your claim?

 

[Noaidi]

No fossil can be shown to have any direct ancestor or descendant relationship with any other fossil.

Gonna need a scientific citation for that, please.

We have fossils with DNA which validates a young earth.

That one too, please.

We have marine fossils on just about every mountain top which validates a global flood.

Yep, another one please. This one is especially interesting, as it shows that you have not considered plate tectonics and orogeny.
In addition, fossils are not found on "just about every mountain top" - they are found only in areas of sedimentary rock. Many mountains are composed of igneous or metamorphic rocks.

Even many Christians don't accept your reasoning: Sediments, Fossils, and Noah'Flood. NOT!.

 

[heretic]

This is a really simple and probably obvious question to ask creationists (or anybody who doesn't think evolution is correct), but one to which I can not ever recollect obtaining an answer to.

My question is simply, how do you explain fossils?

It may sound like a daft question to ask, but it honestly does baffle me.

Please give your honest opinions

I think the problem with fossils as evidence for evolution theory is
if those creatures which those fossils made of , are created by evolution one from another , then there would be millions of intermediate creatures' fossils , which are not exist ?

 

[Looncall]

I think the problem with fossils as evidence for evolution theory is
if those creatures which those fossils made of , are created by evolution one from another , then there would be millions of intermediate creatures' fossils , which are not exist ?

Lots of intermediate fossils have been found. Why do you spread the lies of the creationists?

 

[tumbleweed41]

if those creatures which those fossils made of , are created by evolution one from another , then there would be millions of intermediate creatures' fossils , which are not exist ?

Do you have any idea what conditions are necessary for fossilization? And do you realize that every fossil found is a transitional fossil? (Or are you holding out hope for croco-duck?)

 

[Photonic]

Do you have any idea what conditions are necessary for fossilization? And do you realize that every fossil found is a transitional fossil? (Or are you holding out hope for croco-duck?)

It's about time someone displays understanding of this fact.

 

[cablescavenger]

I think a worthy manipulation of the truth deserves a worthy response correcting the manipulation.

Actually the fossil record supports creation.
We have fossils of creatures that are alive today with no changes.

Creation suggests that everything was created at once, the fossil record shows that different animals lived at different periods, with some being more successful at surviving than others.

No fossil can be shown to have any direct ancestor or descendant relationship with any other fossil.

Not true. If you want to see a living dinosaur you need only look in the sky, they are everywhere, birds are direct descendents of dinosaurs.

We have fossils with DNA which validates a young earth.

DNA has not yet been successfully extracted from any dinosaur fossils because it is too lod, and any traces of DNA have deteriorated, which is why Jurassic Park is a film and not a reality.

We have fossils of creatures that were in struggles with other creatures when they died which show a quick burial.

I am not sure what the implication is here. If you would rephrase it, I would be happy to revisit it.

We have marine fossils on just about every mountain top which validates a global flood.

Correct. Science taught you that, and you chose to listen, science also taught you that it was down to plate tectonics, and the coming together of plates that forces land which was once below the sea upwards to create mountain ranges, but conveniently you have not mentioned that in your comment.

The fossil record doesn’t support all the evolution that supposedly took place, even Darwin admitted that. Other evolutionists have had to admit this also which is how the theory of punctuated equilibrium came about.

The problem with the fossil record is not that it does not support evolution, it is that it does not support all of the evolution that has ever taken place. The reason for this is simply that not every animal produces a fossil; the petrification of bone is pretty rare, so there will always be gaps, however since Darwins time, many more fossils have been uncovered and the fossil record is more mature than it once was and increases the support for evolution.

who created your creator? or is it illegitimate?

 

[Matthew78]

Actually the fossil record supports creation.

Prove it. Try not to misrepresent TalkOrigins this time if you decide to quote from them.

We have fossils of creatures that are alive today with no changes.

And we have many fossils of living organisms that have long perished and many transitional creatures.

No fossil can be shown to have any direct ancestor or descendant relationship with any other fossil.

What about the fossils which show a mosaic of features?

We have fossils with DNA which validates a young earth.

How?

We have fossils of creatures that were in struggles with other creatures when they died which show a quick burial.

How does this show a quick burial? Can you provide examples of these struggles that show quick burial?

We have marine fossils on just about every mountain top which validates a global flood.

You don't know much about geology, do you? You don't know that every reputable geologist believes that the reason why marine fossils are found on mountain tops is because the mountain tops were once under a body of water, like a lake, where the organisms were fossilized. After the water dried out, the rocks were gradually pushed upwards and formed into mountains.

If you want to call my bluff and show otherwise, please cite which geology books that you have read. Mainstream reputable geologists, please. Not creationist hacks who have a religious axe to grind.

The fossil record doesn’t support all the evolution that supposedly took place, even Darwin admitted that. Other evolutionists have had to admit this also which is how the theory of punctuated equilibrium came about.

Where did Darwin admit this? Quote him!

You seriously believe that "punctuated equilibrium" was developed as a means of damage control about the fossil record so that evolutionists wouldn't have to admit that the fossil record supports biblical creation?

 

[heretic]

Lots of intermediate fossils have been found. Why do you spread the lies of the creationists?

To be honest I don't know very much about the subject, so I'm not a very good defender for creationist , but what I'm sure of is that both creations and evolutions have not very strong evidences for their claims, and both use lies to prove their theories , you don't have to be on the edge .

 

[Photonic]

To be honest I don't know very much about the subject, so I'm not a very good defender for creationist , but what I'm sure of is that both creations and evolutions have not very strong evidences for their claims, and both use lies to prove their theories , you don't have to be on the edge .

Educate yourself before commenting then, I'll give you a few books to start with.

This is probably the best.

Amazon.com: Why Evolution Is True (9780143116646): Jerry A. Coyne: Books

Followed by;
Amazon.com: The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution (9781416594789): Richard Dawkins: Books

Also a good one is Amazon.com: The Ancestor's Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Evolution (9780618619160): Richard Dawkins: Books

Reading this one currently myself, it is quite informative.

What is being committed here is an act of extreme intellectual dishonesty. I would like to see that remedied.