mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I am not sure I am up to the task of understanding you, so just consider me previous answers nonsense and leave it at that.
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A simple question for hamas supporter's
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I am not sure I am up to the task of understanding you, so just consider me previous answers nonsense and leave it at that.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
The thing is Hamas claims to have no problem with Jews, it's the "zionists" they say they dont like. I guess it's hard for them to distinguish jews from Zionist so they must kill people they believe to be Zionists. Right?
Pawpatrol
Active Member
I believe Hamas planned to kidnap some Israelis, got into some fights on the way with the IDF, the IDF used that (they already knew Hamas would attack on oct 7th beforehand) as an opportunity to make an excuse for starting a mass slaughtering campaign in Gaza. And for that they needed a significant amount of "civilians", some of them "burned to death in their homes" and what not. It is verified some civilians were burned to death in their homes. Unfortunately for the Israeli propaganda it is also known that such burning only comes as a result of military weaponry which the IDF has and Hamas does not.
So I believe both Hamas and IDF attacked.
Pawpatrol
Active Member
Any Jew living voluntarily in Israel is basically a Zionist.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
You're not suggesting Hamas was surprised that the IDF would be there are you?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
What is a Zionist?
Pawpatrol
Active Member
Am I? That seems to be irrelevant to my post.
No, I do not believe they were surprised per se.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Is "basically" a Zionist? Do you mean close enough to being a Zionist for Hamas to kill them?
Pawpatrol
Active Member
Someone who believes jews should have their own state in Palestine.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Yeah you are because you mentioned the IDF knew Hamas was coming but claimed hamas just wanted to "kidnap" people until the IDF started fighting. It's this disingenuous crap that I find distasteful
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Okay, then I am a Zionist. What is someone that also believes that the Palestinians should also that their own state and that these 2 states should exist alongside each other?
Pawpatrol
Active Member
No,
There most likely are some Jews in Israel who are not Zionists, but even in that case they would be guilty of supporting the cause unless they happened to be working against it sufficiently. But basically, they're all Zionists.Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
So Hamas can kill them then?
Pawpatrol
Active Member
I don't see a problem.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
You and I want that but Hamas doesn't. They have made that clear.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
I didnt expect you to. I don't expect much from hamas supporters.
Pawpatrol
Active Member
It would be silly for them to make their own state just be killed, but ask them — they've made some dumb decisions in the past.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, I still don't think we agree on all the actions done by the state of Israel and some of the settlers.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Who are them/they? And who would kill them?
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
No we don't but it's clear Hamas has no interest whatsoever in a two state solution. Israel has subdued a rabid dog and it's not in their best interests to let it go. Good for them.