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A totally Theist World

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
As an aside to the "ID theory cheapens theism", I wonder where we would now be, as a culture, if everyone was a theist ?

Would insanity be possession by the devil ?
Would there have been no medical reaearch ?
(Certainly any study in the genetics science would be seen as heresy)

Feel free to add some more.:)
 

Melody

Well-Known Member
michel said:
As an aside to the "ID theory cheapens theism", I wonder where we would now be, as a culture, if everyone was a theist ?

Would insanity be possession by the devil ?
Would there have been no medical reaearch ?
(Certainly any study in the genetics science would be seen as heresy)

Feel free to add some more.:)
Depends on which group of theists are running things. If it's my sil's brand of Christian fundamentalism:

Women would not be permitted to work.
The worth of a woman would be how many children she can provide to her husband.
The man would have final say in every decision...no matter how awful the decision was.
Science would be taught from a God driven platform.
Alternate religions would not be permitted.
The worth of a person would be directly related to how "Christian" they appeared to be.
 

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
Michel said:
...I wonder where we would now be, as a culture, if everyone was a theist ?...
Since you asked.;) IMHO there would be...

a lot less crime
many fewer wars
many fewer threads on RF :D

I'll agree with you on insanity, but I gotta' disagree on medical research and genetics. IIRC, the field of genetics for first studied by monks who observed how the characteristics in pea plants when certain plants were 'cross-pollenated', and much medical research is funded by groups with religious affiliation.

Considering how widely thiests beliefs vary, any kind of generalization in answering the question is fraught with peril....but it is interesting to think about.
 

skills101

Vicar of Christ
CaptainXeroid said:
a lot less crime
many fewer wars
many fewer threads on RF :D
If possible, could you elaborate on why you sense these would happen?

Do you feel that the vast majority of criminals in the world are atheist? And that the majorty of wars are fought in the principle of theism against atheism?
 

DeepShadow

White Crow
michel said:
Would insanity be possession by the devil ?
Would there have been no medical reaearch ?
(Certainly any study in the genetics science would be seen as heresy)
I don't see how these three are direct fruit of an all-theist world. There are theists who are psychologist and counselors, medical researchers, and geneticists; Gregor Mendel was a Christian monk, for goodness sake!

Why would "all-theism" mean that everything would stay in the Dark Ages? Galileo was a theist despite his stance against the mainstream church, and I would expect an all-theist world would find more like him to break down the walls of ignorance.

I do agree with Feathers that it would be considerably more boring.
 

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
skills101 said:
If possible, could you elaborate on why you sense these would happen?
Do you feel that the vast majority of criminals in the world are atheist? And that the majorty of wars are fought in the principle of theism against atheism?
Criminals athiests.....frankly, yes, or they are indifferent to God and religion. IMHO, most people who believe in God believe in some kind of judgement after death and strive not be engage in criminal activity on earth. True, there are always exceptions, but you asked if I felt the 'vast majority' were.

As for wars....I didn't say 'theism against atheism'. I just think that everyone believed in God and that faith were an important part of their lives, they would seek to solve their differences other than on the battlefield. Upon further reflection...it seems that throughout history, people engage in war whether or not they believe in God or not. I'll withdraw that comment as it doesn't appear to hold up.

I take it you agree with the fewer threads, though ;)
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
DeepShadow said:
I don't see how these three are direct fruit of an all-theist world. There are theists who are psychologist and counselors, medical researchers, and geneticists; Gregor Mendel was a Christian monk, for goodness sake!

Why would "all-theism" mean that everything would stay in the Dark Ages? Galileo was a theist despite his stance against the mainstream church, and I would expect an all-theist world would find more like him to break down the walls of ignorance.

I do agree with Feathers that it would be considerably more boring.
I just wanted to 'stir the pot' - and, personally, I agree with both you and Feathers.;)
 

ayani

member
depends on the brand of theism, frankly. not all theists, remember, are anti-science or anti-spiritual diversity.
 

johnnys4life

Pro-life Mommy
You're assuming that all medicine and science was invented by non-theists, that is a very wrong assumption. Fact is we still outnumber them 9 to 1, so the world couldn't possibly be much different.

My husband says, "I have trouble believing the devil exists, as man can make enough trouble on his own."
 
In reference to CaptainXeroid's post about:

"ince you asked.;) IMHO there would be...

a lot less crime
many fewer wars
many fewer threads on RF :D"

I actually think the opposite of this is true. Almost every war that has occurred can be linked to religion. Also, the likelihood that a criminal is a theist is quite high. This is because the percentage of theists in an overall population is high.

If all in a population were atheist, I do agree that it would be quite boring. But I also feel that peace would exist. Religion, at its very nature, is a cause of discord among populations.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Depends on if they are all hard-liners or moderates.
Science, eaven Evolution developed in a primarily theistic world. Reasonable, intelligent people can also be thiestic.

My guess is that the world would be very like it is today. Athiests don't cause wars, Human nature causes them... eaven if everyone were followers of the same faith we would find something to war over. Resources, race, specific dogmas... whatever.

wa:do
 

ayani

member
painted wolf said:
My guess is that the world would be very like it is today. Athiests don't cause wars, Human nature causes them... eaven if everyone were followers of the same faith we would find something to war over. Resources, race, specific dogmas... whatever.

wa:do
exactly. :)
 
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