A woman's rage

[ChristineM]

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It

Author A.R. Moxon has recently invited all men to participate in an exercise of empathy. He reframed women’s experiences with assault and sexual violence and presented it in a way that most guys should comprehend…

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It​

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Does it help you guys understand?

 

[Sanzbir]

Imagine being raped and then being told it isn't rape at all because your gender supposedly always wants sex.

 

[Sunstone]

Great analogy. But people who don't want to understand will never understand. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

 

[ChristineM]

Great analogy. But people who don't want to understand will never understand. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Well said.

 

[rocala]

@ChristineM An incredibly powerful post. Thank you.

 

[Revoltingest]

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It

Author A.R. Moxon has recently invited all men to participate in an exercise of empathy. He reframed women’s experiences with assault and sexual violence and presented it in a way that most guys should comprehend…

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It​

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Does it help you guys understand?

A point would be better made without the snarky generalization that
"all men" don't understand.
I notice massive misunderstanding on both opposing sides of this issue.
Of course, each believes the problem lies with the other. One has enmity
instead of empathy for Ford. The other has the same for Kavanaugh.
Neither position is based upon rational thought & evidence....or empathy.
I say they both deserve sympathy, respect & to be heard. But neither
deserves unqualified belief. That requires evidenced cogent argument.

Cautions.....
- I am more empathy challenged than your average neurotypical.
- Anyone who reflexively cries "False equivalency!" at this post is
thereby admitting a dark desire to wear my kilt over their head.

 

[England my lionheart]

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It

Author A.R. Moxon has recently invited all men to participate in an exercise of empathy. He reframed women’s experiences with assault and sexual violence and presented it in a way that most guys should comprehend…

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It​

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Does it help you guys understand?

Its a sad old world when such analogies are required to get the point over.

 

[ChristineM]

A point would be better made without the snarky generalization that "all men" don't understand.

A guess thats down to interpretation, i see it as some men understand some dont, the article is aimed at those who dont. Its the two groups making the 'all'

 

[Sunstone]

A point would be better made without the snarky generalization that "all men" don't understand.

Can you quote the exact words that had led you to believe someone is stating "all men" don't understand. Because I don't get that from the article or the OP.

 

[Sunstone]

Its a sad old world when such analogies are required to get the point over.

And even sadder when such powerful analogies cannot get the point over to so many people.

 

[Revoltingest]

A guess thats down to interpretation, i see it as some men understand some dont, the article is aimed at those who dont. Its the two groups making the 'all'

I assumed that you're more generous than the language used.
But I still had to advise.

 

[England my lionheart]

And even sadder when such powerful analogies cannot get the point over to so many people.

Absolutey

 

[Revoltingest]

Can you quote the exact words that had led you to believe someone is stating "all men" don't understand. Because I don't get that from the article or the OP.

I thought the OP was abundantly clear.
Here is an excerpt, with the relevant portion underlined.
(Note: It was already a bold font in the OP.)
Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It

 

[Sunstone]

I thought the OP was abundantly clear.
Here is an excerpt, with the relevant portion underlined....
Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It

I think you are having some difficulty understanding English today. The underlined portion does not logically mean that all men fail to understand women's rage. Logically, it could (and most likely does) mean that only some men fail to understand women's rage, and then express the hope that the analogy will result in all men understanding women's rage.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think you are having some difficulty understanding English today.

I think you're quibbling to avoid admitting a mistake.
My advice to avoid broadly brushing is sound.

 

[Stevicus]

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It

Author A.R. Moxon has recently invited all men to participate in an exercise of empathy. He reframed women’s experiences with assault and sexual violence and presented it in a way that most guys should comprehend…

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It​

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Does it help you guys understand?

Yeah, to some extent, it might help to understand. I've been kicked in my genitals before, so I know what that feels like.

Among guys, there is a certain hierarchy of toughness. Some guys are tough, bruiser types - big, strong, and able to beat the crap out of the smaller, weaker, wimpier guys out there. The weaker men don't get any sympathy when they're bullied or beaten, and they're often told to "man up" or to stop being such a "crybaby."

Some well-meaning men might advise them to get in shape and learn how to fight, as portrayed in movies like "The Karate Kid." They don't expect society to bend or placate them. They learn to fight, defeat their nemeses, and gain respect the old-fashioned way. There are a few who take the idea to extremes, getting a gun and shooting up a lot of people just to demonstrate they're not wimps or crybabies - they're cold-blooded killers who might still be hated by society, yet still given more respect than the average 98-pound weakling. Sad but true.

I don't think women have any conception of that at all, and many of them might even laugh at or scorn the weaker man who can't fight or stand up for himself. The weaker, gentler men might even wonder why women go for the tough, bruiser types - because they might seem like "real men," and then also wonder why they're to blame when these "real men" beat or rape them. They might wonder, "Why was she hanging out with men like that in the first place? I never raped anyone or hurt any women, so why am *I* to blame for the choices she consciously made? Why should *I* show sympathy when no one showed any sympathy for me when I was beaten and humiliated and all those mean girls laughed about it and rubbed salt in my wounds?"

 

[Sunstone]

I think you're quibbling to avoid admitting a mistake.

ROFL!

Had the statement been "so that men might finally understand", you would have had a point. But that was not the statement. The statement was "so that all men might finally understand". The "all" can be taken by reasonable people to imply that some men do indeed understand. You seem to think not, however. I'll leave it up to the audience, if there is one, to decide for themselves.

 

[Altfish]

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It

Author A.R. Moxon has recently invited all men to participate in an exercise of empathy. He reframed women’s experiences with assault and sexual violence and presented it in a way that most guys should comprehend…

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It​

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I read that yesterday, it is excellent. If only the right wing could understand it.

 

[Nous]

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It

Author A.R. Moxon has recently invited all men to participate in an exercise of empathy. He reframed women’s experiences with assault and sexual violence and presented it in a way that most guys should comprehend…

Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It​

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Does it help you guys understand?

It's horrifying that in 2018 in the US so many men just haven't understood women's experience of assault and sexual violence by men.

It's especially horrifying that so many men (and apparently a few women) thought that there must be something wrong with Dr. Ford's testimony because Kavanaugh was so angry about it.

 

[ChristineM]

Yeah, to some extent, it might help to understand. I've been kicked in my genitals before, so I know what that feels like.

Among guys, there is a certain hierarchy of toughness. Some guys are tough, bruiser types - big, strong, and able to beat the crap out of the smaller, weaker, wimpier guys out there. The weaker men don't get any sympathy when they're bullied or beaten, and they're often told to "man up" or to stop being such a "crybaby."

Some well-meaning men might advise them to get in shape and learn how to fight, as portrayed in movies like "The Karate Kid." They don't expect society to bend or placate them. They learn to fight, defeat their nemeses, and gain respect the old-fashioned way. There are a few who take the idea to extremes, getting a gun and shooting up a lot of people just to demonstrate they're not wimps or crybabies - they're cold-blooded killers who might still be hated by society, yet still given more respect than the average 98-pound weakling. Sad but true.

I don't think women have any conception of that at all, and many of them might even laugh at or scorn the weaker man who can't fight or stand up for himself. The weaker, gentler men might even wonder why women go for the tough, bruiser types - because they might seem like "real men," and then also wonder why they're to blame when these "real men" beat or rape them. They might wonder, "Why was she hanging out with men like that in the first place? I never raped anyone or hurt any women, so why am *I* to blame for the choices she consciously made? Why should *I* show sympathy when no one showed any sympathy for me when I was beaten and humiliated and all those mean girls laughed about it and rubbed salt in my wounds?"

And that excuses rape?