Abolishing corporate personhood. It's time.

[Twilight Hue]

What Could Change if Corporate Personhood Were Abolished?


Are you for abolishing corporate personhood?

I think its long overdue.

 

[PureX]

It's not going to happen. They (corporate lobbyists) own the politicians lock, stock, and barrel. On both sides of the isle.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's not going to happen. They (corporate lobbyists) own the politicians lock, stock, and barrel. On both sides of the isle.

That was a reason why corporate personhood was created in the first place imv.

It seems Jaypal brought forth a proposal to do just that...


Jayapal Leads Proposal for Constitutional Amendment to End Corporate Personhood

 

[F1fan]

And also goes the "greed freedom" that you were defending on another thread. No personhood? That opens the door to more regulation, and less lobbying. Do you really want that?

 

[The Hammer]

What Could Change if Corporate Personhood Were Abolished?


Are you for abolishing corporate personhood?

I think its long overdue.

I'd love to see it happen. But will it? Probably not. Too much money invested in it now. The proper time for shutting this down was when Citizens United was first proposed.

 

[sun rise]

I agree it should go. But given the vast sums of money involved, it won't go easily.

 

[Audie]

Identically driven social engineers have
done nothing but bring down chaos and suffering.

 

[Nakosis]

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What Could Change if Corporate Personhood Were Abolished?


Are you for abolishing corporate personhood?

I think its long overdue.

Some of that website's claims seem a bit goofy.

I don't see an issue with "corporate personhood" in the sense of a corporation that can own assets and liability in its own right and can enter into - and be held to - agreements regardless of changes in its directors or shareholders.

OTOH, I disagree with the idea that corporations should have the rights of people... and to a large degree, I also disagree with the idea that the actions of a corporation are protected "expression" of its shareholders.

 

[Revoltingest]

What Could Change if Corporate Personhood Were Abolished?


Are you for abolishing corporate personhood?

I think its long overdue.

So you're saying that corporations should
no longer be able to....
- Be sued in court.
- Sue in court.
- Enjoy equal protection
- Speak freely

The origins of corporate personhood arose around
3000 years ago. It allowed people to associate &
operate as a group, rather than just individually.
A modern example is the Democratic National Committee.
(It's a corporation, ya know.)

Would you really people to organize as a group to
act in concert, & for this organization to operate in
the court system regarding rights & liabilities?
Would you deny political parties the right to speak?

 

[Revoltingest]

That was a reason why corporate personhood was created in the first place imv.

It seems Jaypal brought forth a proposal to do just that...


Jayapal Leads Proposal for Constitutional Amendment to End Corporate Personhood

This fool would end her own party (the DNC is
a corporation.
Why are Democrats so often in the vanguard of
malcontents bent on reducing our rights, instead
of expanding them, eh.

 

[Valjean]

Why stop with corporate personhood? Let's federally fund elections and get private and dark money out of the process.
Billions in ‘dark money’ is influencing US politics. We need disclosure laws | David Sirota and Joel Warner

 

[Twilight Hue]

This fool would end her own party (the DNC is
a corporation.
Why are Democrats so often in the vanguard of
malcontents bent on reducing our rights, instead
of expanding them, eh.

This is one rare time I'm siding mostly with the left.

Corporate personhood has got to go and die a horrible death.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why stop with corporate personhood? Let's federally fund elections and get private and dark money out of the process.
Billions in ‘dark money’ is influencing US politics. We need disclosure laws | David Sirota and Joel Warner

Whatever it takes to bring it back to we the people and not we the corporations pretending to be people.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So you're saying that corporations should
no longer be able to....
- Be sued in court.
- Sue in court.
- Enjoy equal protection
- Speak freely

The origins of corporate personhood arose around
3000 years ago. It allowed people to associate &
operate as a group, rather than just individually.
A modern example is the Democratic National Committee.
(It's a corporation, ya know.)

Would you really people to organize as a group to
act in concert, & for this organization to operate in
the court system regarding rights & liabilities?
Would you deny political parties the right to speak?

Not when it gets to the point where special interest, lobbying, buying politictions (ie elections) for favors, controlling legislation, to big to fail bailouts....

And no it didn't start 3000 years ago.

It really started in 1978.


First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti - Wikipedia

When Did Companies Become People? Excavating The Legal Evolution

 

[Revoltingest]

This is one rare time I'm siding mostly with the left.

Hmmm...my impression of you
is that you often side with them.

Corporate personhood has got to go and die a horrible death.

Why?

 

[Revoltingest]

Not when it gets to the point where special interest, lobbying, buying politictions (ie elections) for favors, controlling legislation, to big to fail bailouts....

You prefer that other special interests (unions,
politicians, wealthy individuals) control all, with
businesses having no voice?

And no it didn't start 3000 years ago.
It really started in 1978.

Au contraire!
A little history....
Corporate personhood - Wikipedia
Clearly, the ability to sue is an aspect of personhood
that corporations had long long before 1978.

First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti - Wikipedia
When Did Companies Become People? Excavating The Legal Evolution

I marvel at your 2nd link, which is a corporation.
Would you gut their ability to advocate for economic
& social change using government airwaves?