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Abortion as method is too outdated to be discussed

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
This obsession with money....
We all will die...and money will stay...
For God's sake: considering the common good something spiritual all people benefit from.
That's the strategy of the social conservatives: suddenly become selectively fiscal conservative when it comes to funding contraception and such. Cut taxes, and have deficit spending so the dept of treasury has to issue treasury bonds so they can buy them with their tax savings for their personal financial portfolios.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I assure you we Italians are very open about sex. We tell everything.

No...she has been taking the pill since she was 15. Now she is in her 40s...so...
:)
So...she's okay with the health risks around increased rates of depression, and certain heart and blood impacts, and doesn't fall into one of the groups where pill use is not recommended, and has avoided STDs via...additional protection?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
So...she's okay with the health risks around increased rates of depression,
I have been taking that pill for years. It's artificial hormones, etinilestradiol or other kinds of estradiol.
If I get side effects, I will not really care.
Another side effect is liver cancer.
Life is full of risks...
But I guess an unwanted pregnancy is a much problematic risk than getting heart failure or liver cancer. :)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Maybe she's infertile.
Look...science never lies. :)If you have been taking the pill since you were 15, your body doesn't recognize the natural hormones, which are estrogens and progesterone, any more; because the artificial hormones administered through the pill, etinilestradiol and drospirenone basically offset the ovaric cycle.
Once the ovaries are offset, they don't produce egg cells any more.
So after almost 30 years...yes...it leads to a iatrogen sterility. :)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Or maybe, and I hate to bring up this possibility, maybe not everyone who posts on this message board tells the absolute truth 100% of the time.

Knowing a prostitute is not something that makes me really proud...especially because it implies I live in the suburbs.
I don't live in the Fine Rome...
:)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
And then there are those stupid teenage kids that didn't practice safe sex. Well, screw them - literally.
The US is probably the most backwards first world country when it comes to sexuality. Other countries do not have our problems because free contraceptives are plentiful and available without shaming. If young kids in the US could get birth control without any judgement at no cost to them the number of teen pregnancies would almost surely drop precipitously. The problem here is that the same people that oppose abortion also oppose handing out contraceptives freely. After all if they did that, young kids would probably have sex. Luckily shutting off their access to contraceptives completely stops those actions:facepalm:
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I believe that nowadays abortion has gained an oversized importance in the political debate, especially in the ongoing presidential campaign.

After all, Trump has stated that abortion can be a solution to extreme and rare cases, and each state should determine those cases. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...ned-by-us-states-gives-no-details-2024-04-08/

Nevertheless I believe we are not in the seventies any more. We are in the twenties of the 21st century and medicine has made giant leaps, since then.
Nowadays, it's almost impossible to have an unwanted pregnancy with all the countless contraception methods available in wealthy countries like the US.

So...really...I am not understanding why abortion is still an issue.
I consider it something very, very outdated as method and as topic.
Abortion was never the real issue. The real issue is control. A lot of people want to be in control of everything and everyone else. They want to decide how everyone else should live their lives because they believe they know better than everyone else how we all should be living. And they really do not care what you or I or anyone else thinks about that. So as far as they are concerned they have the right to do whatever they want or need to, to gain that control. And once they get it they will have every right to use that power however they see fit.

And because there is a large enough number of these people in the U.S., there are now a bunch of criminal politicians that are willing to serve their insanely selfish agenda just to garner their votes in the next election cycle.

The issue is control. Not just control over women's bodies but they want to control who can marry whom, and who can have what genitalia. And who present themselves in public as a male or a female. Who can adopt a child. And it certainly will not stop there. They will surely be banning and severely punishing anyone that dares to speak out against them. From there it's only a short step away from accusing and punishing anyone for any reason the feel like,

It's a very serious threat. And it will only get worse until as a nation we finally figure out why and how to stop it.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The US is probably the most backwards first world country when it comes to sexuality. Other countries do not have our problems because free contraceptives are plentiful and available without shaming. If young kids in the US could get birth control without any judgement at no cost to them the number of teen pregnancies would almost surely drop precipitously. The problem here is that the same people that oppose abortion also oppose handing out contraceptives freely. After all if they did that, young kids would probably have sex. Luckily shutting off their access to contraceptives completely stops those actions:facepalm:
Well said.
That is absolutely nonsensical.
How the ones who are against abortion are often the same people who are against available (or even free) contraception.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Sicilian woman from the seventies.

"I had two abortions, but we should avoid them, since now there is the pill.
I have been taking the pill, because I want no more children"


Guys,...the seventies....
they were more modern than today people. ;)
 
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