Abrahamic Believers

[Katzpur]

allow me to cut to the chase then.

Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?


so then do gods worship some other god, or do they worship what is within them and other as self?

do the abrahamic followers worship what is within them? and without them?

if you are the light of the world, do you only worship the light of another, or of all and in all?

if god is not a respecter of person, does that mean god is not a respecter of all?

Thank you for "cutting to the chase." It makes things infinitely easier than my trying to figure out the riddles.

I believer, as I said before, that each of us has a spark of divinity within us. That does not mean that we worship ourselves or each other. We worship our God, our Creator. I would say, though, that Mormons see mankind as being essentially the same "species" as God, but in a less fully developed state. The Bible says that our God is "God of gods." To me, that makes Him even greater than He would be if He were merely the "God of men." I believe that the reference to God not being "a respecter of persons" doesn't mean that He doesn't respect us as people but that He loves us all equally.

 

[Fool]

Thank you for "cutting to the chase." It makes things infinitely easier than my trying to figure out the riddles.

I believer, as I said before, that each of us has a spark of divinity within us. That does not mean that we worship ourselves or each other. We worship our God, our Creator. I would say, though, that Mormons see mankind as being essentially the same "species" as God, but in a less fully developed state. The Bible says that our God is "God of gods." To me, that makes Him even greater than He would be if He were merely the "God of men." I believe that the reference to God not being "a respecter of persons" doesn't mean that He doesn't respect us as people but that He loves us all equally.

yes but seeing god as separate from its creation creates a duality; which isn't being one with God. with god being separate from the created there appears to be two things vs hear o' israel the Lord is ONE. apart from god there is no other.

 

[Katzpur]

yes but seeing god as separate from its creation creates a duality; which isn't being one with God. with god being separate from the created there appears to be two things vs hear o' israel the Lord is ONE. apart from god there is no other.

Well, I'm not into labels, you if you want to refer to it as a duality, that's fine with me. I just know what I believe, and I have no aspirations to get anybody else to believe as I do. There are actually numerous instances in the scriptures where the word "one" is found to denote a unity which is not physical:

Exodus 24:3 "And Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the LORD hath said will we do."

2 Corinthians 13:11 "Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you."

Acts 4:32 "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

In each of these examples, the word "one" is used to describe a unity that has nothing to do with the numeral "1" or, in fact, to physical unity. When Jesus Christ prayed to His Father that His followers would be "one" as He and His Father were "one," I don't believe He was suggesting that we all be absorbed into a single substance. Two people can remain physically distinct from each other and still be "one" in heart, will, purpose, etc. So yeah, it's a physical duality but a unity otherwise that we are striving for and can hope to attain. That's pretty much the only way I can think to put it, and for me to try to elaborate more would kind of be a waste of time, IMO.

 

[Fool]

Well, I'm not into labels, you if you want to refer to it as a duality, that's fine with me. I just know what I believe, and I have no aspirations to get anybody else to believe as I do. There are actually numerous instances in the scriptures where the word "one" is found to denote a unity which is not physical:

Exodus 24:3 "And Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the LORD hath said will we do."

2 Corinthians 13:11 "Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you."

Acts 4:32 "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

In each of these examples, the word "one" is used to describe a unity that has nothing to do with the numeral "1" or, in fact, to physical unity. When Jesus Christ prayed to His Father that His followers would be "one" as He and His Father were "one," I don't believe He was suggesting that we all be absorbed into a single substance. Two people can remain physically distinct from each other and still be "one" in heart, will, purpose, etc. So yeah, it's a physical duality but a unity otherwise that we are striving for and can hope to attain. That's pretty much the only way I can think to put it, and for me to try to elaborate more would kind of be a waste of time, IMO.

i'm more than well aware of two people being distinctly different because of their outward appearances, or forms, but god isn't a person vs some other person. isn't the Absolute or All(singular) in all(plural).

when people start defining this as distinctly different from that, aren't they delimiting and defining what is God vs what isn't the Absolute?

friendship, or love, is two bodies being of ONE mind. - mencius

 

[InChrist]

People are separated from God by their sin...

Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened,
That it cannot save;
Nor His ear heavy,
That it cannot hear.
But your iniquities have separated you from your God;
And your sins have hidden His face from you,
So that He will not hear.Isaiah 59:1-2

 

[Katzpur]

... god isn't a person vs some other person.

Well, I believe He is.

 

[Fool]

Well, I believe He is.

this would then nullify the inerrant gospel?

Job 34:19
19 God is not partial to princes
and does not favor the rich over the poor,
for they are all the work of His hands.



Acts 10
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

 

[Ibni Abbas]

I found that the analogy to answer the question :


The similarity for that idea is like the event between Al Nabi SAW with Al Abu Bakar Ash Shidiiq RA and the otherwise as well .

 

[Katzpur]

this would then nullify the inerrant gospel?

If you say so.

 

[Fool]

If you say so.

a question is not a statement of fact. a question is asking for something. a statement is giving something; which may/may not have been asked for