not at all... I just read and study and find out what was said and why it was said.
Just thought I would share why we disagree.
The reason why people disagree on this point is because there are scriptures that put that into question:
For an example:
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. (and other versus about the blood)
Notice that you will find that it is the blood of Jesus and the body of Jesus that saves and sanctifies... no mention of water baptism.
So we have to harmonize the scripture and realize that IF you are born again, you should be obedient and get baptized in water. If you give your life to Jesus and then get thrown into the Colosseum and you die, you still are saved even if you were not baptized.
It will really take alot to explain this further so you can really understand where I am coming from. I will try to keep it short, but i really want you to understand what I mean.
1. Jesus His Pre-Eminence is the Word correct? John 1:1 This has been not well understood by Jews and Christians alike. The jews took HIS Words to be cannablism, the Christians took HIS Words to mean HIM. But what HE was speaking of is HIS message; Revelations about eternal life; about transfiguration; about resurrection, about the Son of GOD, the Son of Man, about the fall of Man and even the genesis story. These were not just pieces of information, but HIS Word sanctfies. That sanctification is exonoration of the things they said and did (not sinfully) but with the wrong mindset about who GOD is. It is also a shielder, HIS Word like forms a barrier, a hedge like what was written in Job, that the person cannot be harmed by sicknesses and disease: Or by anyone that seeks to harm them; GOD's Word is the shielder that makes the person to become "A Touch Not".
Jesus His Pre-Eminence saying: I am the bread of life: Your fathers ate Manna and are dead, I am the bread that cometh down from heaven, he that eats of this bread shall never die but live forever.
If a man keep my sayings he sall never see death.
Except (which means there is no other way) ye eat th flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
These are Revelations about HIS Word, what HIS Word contains, and that we must eat, assimilate, drink in HIS Word. That is why HIS Word was called "Bread of life", and "Waters of Life". The people have believed that Father Adam and Mother Eve ate from a tree called "The knowledge of good and evil", and that that is what the tree gave them. But they did not believe that what is called "The bread of life" actually gives life.
And HE brought it home when HE at the last supper revealed that the bread and wine was not HIS body literally, but HIS Word. But the Christians have ritualised this and called it "Holy Communion". A Communion is talking about speech, not unlevened bread and grape juice. That is why HE sealed it when HE said: Do this in rememberance of ME...
Do what? Eat bread and drink wine? No, eat Revelations, meditate in HIS Word that was personified by HIS flesh and blood. Why? Because HE was speaking from a height of knowledge that was above the understanding of the people. HE was speaking about HIS Gene; the very Gene of the Son of GOD. And this is not something that is just believed. HE revealed that HIS Word is what contains HIS GENE... And by assimilating HIS Word into your Spirit Being, when it reaches the Spirit Being it deposits HIS Gene in the body.
So when you say we are sanctified through the body and blood of Jesus His Pre-Eminence, you show that you haven't understood that HE is the Word; which means HE personified HIMSELF as HIS message that HE told the people that except they have HIS gene they have no life in them. HE was speaking about the cell system of the body; that blood is the life of the flesh, so the blood of the Son of GOD that sanctifies is not the red blood we have, but HIS Genetics. Meaning, the very cell system of the Son of GOD that Father Adam had before the fall to mortality.
2. Baptizm is very important if you understand what similitudes and adumbrations are... Baptizm is what is needed to be resurrected at the first resurrection for those that are resurrected, and also for those that did not require resurrection as they transfigured in life. This is not a ritual, it is a must do because it is a kind of cleansing. It also helps the person to be more able to understand revelations as they are raining; giving them a kind of clarity that they could not have had before. But until you understand what being born again is; that it is transfiguration, then you won't see its importance. That is one.
Two, the person who is baptizing matters. Its not about you being comfortable with the person, or the person being a leader of a church, it is about GOD recognising that baptizm. People have been immersed in water and they wouldn't even know that GOD did not acknowledge it. Why? Because Baptizm is more than just immersion into water, but it is a similitude of the real baptizm, which is the immersion of your Spirit Being into the physical body forming in the womb of your biological mother. And then, the immersion of your Spirit Being into the immortal celestial body, whether by transfiguration in life, or by resurrection. Thus, only those that are highest in rank in the kingdom can baptize, and thes are the three Elijah, which are all baptists. EL-YAH means GOD. The three Elijah are who have the mantle of authority in the earth. When Elijah is in the earth, no Prophet, or Prophetess, or levite, is above him.
Therefore, being born of water is not immersion into water, but the immersion of your Spirit Being into the body of your biological mother who birthed you into this world. The Woman is defining the body, and the body is earthy. The earth came from water. Thus, the body is born of water. While baptizm by the Spirit and fire, is the wedding of your body and Spirit becoming one flesh; which is immersion into your immortal body. This is what it means to be born again. Therefore, being born again is transfiguration in life.
