ACA success stories

[esmith]

Im a tax payer. By the way. Its possible I pay more taxes than you .

So, what is you point in making such statement. Is it that you want the government to subsidies Planned Parenthood and since you pay more in taxes than we do you rule. Oh, buy the way you probably do pay more in Federal Taxes and since you live in TX (I'm assuming) you pay no State Income Tax. It really doesn't make dip diddle squat difference who pays more in taxes, we have just as much right to voice our opinions as you do.

 

[esmith]

I know the two aren't perfectly comparable, so perhaps I could have worded that better, but my point remains: I don't want to support America's imperialist military because its current manifestation pretty much violates all the ethics I was raised in, but I'm legally obligated to and am not in any way capable of fighting that within legal confines (the only legit way to fight such things.)

Don't like to say the following because it is such a trite statement; However, if you do not want to support the US military you do have an option not to do so.

But if the right to bear arms had the kind of impact it was supposed to, we'd be capable of providing our own common defense.

And what impact was that supposed to be? And I don't think our Founding Fathers assumed that only that right was capable of totally defending the country. They so indicated by the "provide for the common defense" in the Constitution didn't they?

 

[Riverwolf]

Don't like to say the following because it is such a trite statement; However, if you do not want to support the US military you do have an option not to do so.

Not if I want or have to live here, and I'm currently in the latter. If I'm to live here, I have to pay taxes. I don't get to choose where those taxes go; I'm not rich enough.

And what impact was that supposed to be?

The ability to rise against a corrupted government without much fuss, because the government and people would be just about equalized in terms of how much power they had.

And I don't think our Founding Fathers assumed that only that right was capable of totally defending the country. They so indicated by the "provide for the common defense" in the Constitution didn't they?

I don't believe I said they believed such a thing. They disagreed on all kinds of things, and there's lots of misinformation about them being perpetuated about what they wanted and didn't want nowadays (from both liberals and conservatives), but one thing is absolutely certain and agreed upon by all parties: they were geniuses.

I was trying to say that at least that right meant to imply that there'd be multiple entities capable of providing defense.

 

[Revoltingest]

No wonder there are Obamacare success stories.
Gov is hiring organizations to subvert the standards of the program.
The Truth about Navigators | National Review Online

“You lie because your premiums will be higher,” one navigator advises an investigator for O’Keefe’s Project Veritas, who tells the worker he sometimes smokes. “Don’t tell them that. Don’t tell ’em.”
The investigator then poses as a low-income worker at a university who has unreported cash income on the side, worrying about how that might affect his premium subsidies. That’s no problem for a navigator, who says, “Don’t get yourself in trouble by declaring it now.”
“Yeah, it didn’t happen,” another navigator says. One more chimes in: “Never report it.”

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Yes I know they receive charitable donations. I am suggesting that they not receive taxpayer money just private donations. I'm tired of supporting multiple entities that provide the same service.

Clinics like PP and other small clinics can be vital to various types of communities. Low income communities have been able to benefit from clinics like PP and others...where access to a primary care persona was not an option. I see no reason they and others should get state or federal funding.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

So, what is you point in making such statement. Is it that you want the government to subsidies Planned Parenthood and since you pay more in taxes than we do you rule. Oh, buy the way you probably do pay more in Federal Taxes and since you live in TX (I'm assuming) you pay no State Income Tax. It really doesn't make dip diddle squat difference who pays more in taxes, we have just as much right to voice our opinions as you do.

How can I get out of having any of my taxes go to tricare. I think ex-military personnel should come home and get jobs like the rest of us and buy their own healthcare...do you agree?

 

[Mr Spinkles]

I know of students who developed medical conditions who had to drop out of their graduate program because of the very low maximum benefits on prescription drugs. Society still pays for those drugs, of course -- they just get their insurance by getting any job, or getting govt. assistance, instead of fulfilling their potential as scientists, engineers, and scholars. Thanks to Obamacare, that won't happen anymore at my program because there are no prescription maximums.

Yet another ACA success story, for the record.

 

[esmith]

How can I get out of having any of my taxes go to tricare. I think ex-military personnel should come home and get jobs like the rest of us and buy their own healthcare...do you agree?

In very simple terms:


NO

 

[Magic Man]

In very simple terms:


NO

Mind me asking what specifically you disagree with?

 

[esmith]

Sure no problem. Basically the attitude.

Mind me asking what specifically you disagree with?

How can I get out of having any of my taxes go to tricare. I think ex-military personnel should come home and get jobs like the rest of us and buy their own healthcare...do you agree?

In the above post it appears that Mr Penguin doesn't think that veterans don't attempt to find a job once they leave the military. But then again maybe Mr Penguin thinks that all ex-military are eligible for Tricare. The only health care that all ex-military personnel can receive at the tax payers expense are those provided by the VA; IF THEY QUALIFY. The only "ex-military" that can receive the health care plan called Tricare are those that retired from the military this also includes their immediate family. We fought long and hard to get what was verbally implied when we decided to make the military a career and then found out that we were being lied to. It seems that some politicians on both sides of the "isle" could care less what happens to military members once they are though with us as the "tip of the spear" in their adventurism. At the present time this administration is contemplating having cuts to active duty personnel pay and benefits and paying for their own health care.
So, that is why.

Hagel Says Cuts to Pay and Benefits are Needed | Military.com

 

[Magic Man]

Sure no problem. Basically the attitude.






In the above post it appears that Mr Penguin doesn't think that veterans don't attempt to find a job once they leave the military. But then again maybe Mr Penguin thinks that all ex-military are eligible for Tricare. The only health care that all ex-military personnel can receive at the tax payers expense are those provided by the VA; IF THEY QUALIFY. The only "ex-military" that can receive the health care plan called Tricare are those that retired from the military this also includes their immediate family. We fought long and hard to get what was verbally implied when we decided to make the military a career and then found out that we were being lied to. It seems that some politicians on both sides of the "isle" could care less what happens to military members once they are though with us as the "tip of the spear" in their adventurism. At the present time this administration is contemplating having cuts to active duty personnel pay and benefits and paying for their own health care.
So, that is why.

Hagel Says Cuts to Pay and Benefits are Needed | Military.com

I feel like I must be missing something. So you agree that ex-military personnel should come home and get jobs like the rest of us (like they generally do, if they're able), but they shouldn't have to pay for their own health insurance?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

In the above post it appears that Mr Penguin doesn't think that veterans don't attempt to find a job once they leave the military.

Nope...Not what I think at all.

But then again maybe Mr Penguin thinks that all ex-military are eligible for Tricare.

Nope...I'm talking about the ones that do.

The only health care that all ex-military personnel can receive at the tax payers expense are those provided by the VA; IF THEY QUALIFY.

And I don't believe I should have to support that system with my taxes either unless healthcare is provided to all.

We fought long and hard to get what was verbally implied when we decided to make the military a career and then found out that we were being lied to.

Yes...you were lied to....I'm not sure why politicians saw fit to make that promise at taxpayer's expense.

It seems that some politicians on both sides of the "isle" could care less what happens to military members once they are though with us as the "tip of the spear" in their adventurism. At the present time this administration is contemplating having cuts to active duty personnel pay and benefits and paying for their own health care.
So, that is why.

And what I'm trying to get across is that everyone in this country should have healthcare. If being covered is good for you at my expense then so should it be for the mom with two kids working two part-time jobs to make the ends meet.

 

[esmith]

you are welcome to your opinion. just don't expect me to agree with you on the majority of points.

 

[Riverwolf]

No wonder there are Obamacare success stories.
Gov is hiring organizations to subvert the standards of the program.
The Truth about Navigators | National Review Online

Trust me: MoonWater at least is being 100% honest and hasn't gotten a single penny. I know: we're flat out broke these days.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trust me: MoonWater at least is being 100% honest and hasn't gotten a single penny. I know: we're flat out broke these days.

I don't doubt you.
May all our boats rise with an economic recovery....soon!

 

[Amandi]

I feel like I must be missing something. So you agree that ex-military personnel should come home and get jobs like the rest of us (like they generally do, if they're able), but they shouldn't have to pay for their own health insurance?

I have no problem with supplying healthcare for those who make a carreer and retire from the military. I wouldnt have a problem supporting that for first responders as well. If you didnt retire, then there are lots of conditions about who can use the VA. Heck, I am a veteran with an honorable discharge, work at the VA, and cannot use the VA.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is a semi-success story. My son expects to get about a $1000/year subsidy with Obamacare. The only problem is that he can't sign up...he's been trying to for weeks, & it's just one glitch after another. Even with Mrs Revolt's help, tis no can do. (Btw, she is an expert in health/medical insurance.) The biggest problem seems to be with IRS documents they require of him.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Dem governors explain how they got Obamacare working in their states - Salon.com

Brad Camp, a small-business owner in Kingston, Wash., who received a cancellation notice in September from his insurance carrier. He went to the state exchange, the*Washington Healthplanfinder, and for close to the same premium his family was paying before got upfront coverage for doctor’s office visits and prescription drug , vision and dental coverage. His family was able to keep the same insurance carrier and doctors and qualified for tax credits to help cover the cost.

Since Howard Stovall opened his sign and graphics business in Lexington, Ky., in 1998, he has paid half the cost of health insurance for his eight employees. With the help of Stovall’s longtime insurance agent and Kentucky’s health exchange,*Kynect, Stovall’s employees are saving 5 percent to 40 percent each on new health insurance plans with better benefits. Stovall can afford to provide additional employee benefits, including full disability coverage and part of the cost of vision and dental plans, while still saving the business 50 percent compared with the old plans.

In Connecticut, Anne Masterson was able to reduce her monthly premiums from $965 to $313 for similar coverage, including a $145 tax credit. Masterson is able to use her annual premium savings of $8,000 to pay bills or save for retirement.

 

[Revoltingest]

Woman Hailed by President as Obamacare Success Story Now Can't Afford Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

Sanford tells CNN that she's embarrassed. "It was a huge disappointment, especially since I had, you know, my
story had been shared by the president. I felt like, you know, I just felt really embarrassed that, you know, he quoted
my story and then come to find that the Washington health plan finder, the website here in our state, had grossly
miscalculated or they're having a problem figuring their tax credits. and so at least for right now, I don't --
I'm not going to be getting insurance," she says.

 

[esmith]

Dem governors explain how they got Obamacare working in their states - Salon.com

Woman Hailed by President as Obamacare Success Story Now Can't Afford Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

Let see if I have this straight the story DP relates is about a person in Washington and your story, Revoltingest, is about a woman in Washington also but with totally different results. Something doesn't sound exactly right, but I'm sure there will be forthcoming post to explain the defugalty.