According To Biden It Is Time To Reinstate Duck and Cover

[Estro Felino]

Ya, for some reason leaders don't like giving away some of their territory to despots.

However, please do remember that I wished they'd gone for non-violent non-cooperation.

If I had been Zelenski, I would have resigned on day one.
Because that would have saved hundreds of Ukrainian lives.

 

[metis]

If I had been Zelenski, I would have resigned on day one.
Because that would have saved hundreds of Ukrainian lives.
But it seems to me that some people are so prideful, that their priority is not saving human lives from death.

I tend to agree with you, but most leaders historically under similar conditions would respond militarily.

 

[Suave]

I don't think either country would likely accept that.

I'm confident Russia would accept the peace deal because this would allow Putin to save face by claiming to have secured Crimea and Donbas as well as there being Ukrainian neutrality in the interest of Russian national security. I'm confident N.A.T.O. could persuade Ukraine to accept the Elon Musk peace deal by defunding military assistance to Ukraine if they were unwilling to accept this peace settlement,

 

[Revoltingest]

Seems that clueless Joe thinks armageddon is just around the corner.
Now I see a few issues with his announcement
1. This is something that should not have been brought forward. Even is you think he should have, why just at a Democratic fundraiser and not all of us.
2. Is he implying that if Putin uses nuclear weapons that the US will respond in kind? Sounds like it if he brings up arrmageddon.
Biden invokes possibility of 'Armageddon' in Democratic fundraiser speech

Of course what he said had to be defended.....
White House defends Biden's 'Armageddon' comment, says no indication Russia preparing to use nuclear weapons

You suspect that Biden, a politician, is playing politics?
Hmmm....I guess that is possible.

 

[metis]

I'm confident Russia would accept the peace deal because this would allow Putin to save face by claiming to have secured Crimea and Donbass as well as there being Ukrainian neutrality in the interest of Russian national security.

Not according to some of the people I've listened to who know/knew Putin, especially since there is some unhappiness with many of the wealthy Russians because of the sanctions. And look at all the young men who have left Russia?

For Putin to give up would be an admission of defeat, thus his life expectancy could be somewhat shortened.

 

[Estro Felino]

I tend to agree with you, but most leaders historically under similar conditions would respond militarily.

It depends. King Victor Emmanuel III accepted unconditional surrender in September 1943 and that saved countless human lives from sure death.
It depends on the leader.

 

[Suave]

Not according to some of the people I've listened to who know/knew Putin, especially since there is some unhappiness with many of the wealthy Russians because of the sanctions. And look at all the young men who have left Russia?

For Putin to give up would be an admission of defeat, thus his life expectancy could be somewhat shortened.

I doubt Putin ever expected to take control over all of Ukraine's 600,000 square kilometers with just the 200,000 troops he deployed to conduct military operations there, I suspect his intention all along was to get Donbas annexed to the Russian Federation as well as secure a land corridor linking Crimea to the Russian mainland.

 

[averageJOE]

I'm confident nuclear conflict between N.A,T,O. and Russia is avoidable if Ukraine and Russia were to accept the Elon Musk peace deal offer in order to peacefully resolve the Ukraine-Russia conflict,

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These are not an "Elon Musk peace deal". These are actually the demands Russia was seeking.
Russia Lists Demands to End War

 

[Estro Felino]

These are not an "Elon Musk peace deal". These are actually the demands Russia was seeking.
Russia Lists Demands to End War

But it's a start.
Musk showed to be sensible.
Unlike others who like to play war games as kindergarten boys would.

 

[Twilight Hue]

.....Perhaps Putin should have been given this advice before attacking Ukraine.

Putin yells BOO!

Everyone else goes AAAAAHHHHH!

Putin laughs and gets his way.

Mission Accomplished.

 

[tytlyf]

Your Fox article mentioned nothing about "Duck and Cover"

 

[The Hammer]

If I had been Zelenski, I would have resigned on day one.
Because that would have saved hundreds of Ukrainian lives.
But it seems to me that some people are so prideful, that their priority is not saving human lives from death.

Well, I know which country to invade next boys! The Italians will just roll over.

 

[Estro Felino]

Well, I know which country to invade next boys! The Italians will just roll over.

...which is US territory already.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yeah, make US partisan politics out of something that can affect all of the world.
Because it only matter what happens in the world, if it matters to US partisan politics.

If the Italians only hadn't misbehaved so much in ww2. .

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

If the Italians only hadn't misbehaved so much in ww2. .

Yeah, but I am Danish. Can you try to make an actual somewhat reasonable argument?

 

[Estro Felino]

If the Italians only hadn't misbehaved so much in ww2. .

Nobody wanted the war. And those who wanted it thought it would last few months.

 

[esmith]

So, calling a spade a "spade" is "clueless"? I do believe the "clueless" accusation is misapplied.

Kennedy also warned the Soviets about the dangers of a nuclear exchange, so was he "clueless" as well?

Kennedy was a leader and didn't suffer from the same maladies that Biden is suffeing from, namely lack of cognizant reality.

 

[Estro Felino]

Kennedy was a leader and didn't suffer from the same maladies that Biden is suffeing from, namely lack of cognizant reality.

I think JFK wasn't part of their clique...that's why they got rid of him. They have zero tolerance for outsiders.

 

[esmith]

I think JFK wasn't part of their clique...that's why they got rid of him. They have zero tolerance for outsiders.

Who got rid JFK????

 

[tytlyf]

Kennedy was a leader and didn't suffer from the same maladies that Biden is suffeing from, namely lack of cognizant reality.

Didn't Biden wipe the floor with Trump during the presidential debates? So much so that Trump wanted to call off the 3rd debate?

That says a lot about Trump's cognitive abilities. Donald was a rotten POS decades before the presidency.