Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Depends on molecule and system.
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According to Some Folks, New Theory in Physics has "Creationists Terrified".
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Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
Many creationists are already terrified of thinking.
If God created all things, and non-living matter as the building blocks of life as we know it, then it should be very obvious that life would inevitably arise under the right conditions.
If they would just lose that false timeline and realize that a newby human has no clue about the ways and actions of an eternal being, they would do well.
How else could God have created life if not by creating the building blocks and then causing the right conditions?
God said "I said ye are gods" -and even we are capable of eventually using those building blocks and causing the right conditions.
As I understand it, we are already synthesizing DNA.
What we should be terrified of are the abominations and calamities we might cause due to our nature and lack of discipline.
If God created all things, and non-living matter as the building blocks of life as we know it, then it should be very obvious that life would inevitably arise under the right conditions.
If they would just lose that false timeline and realize that a newby human has no clue about the ways and actions of an eternal being, they would do well.
How else could God have created life if not by creating the building blocks and then causing the right conditions?
God said "I said ye are gods" -and even we are capable of eventually using those building blocks and causing the right conditions.
As I understand it, we are already synthesizing DNA.
What we should be terrified of are the abominations and calamities we might cause due to our nature and lack of discipline.
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It's a really interesting article. Thanks!
Interesting, I don't see a threat to creationism.....at least no more of a threat than anything else.
First impression: "Move along folks, nothing to see here."
Among the educated classes it's always been assumed that life arose through some understandable, scientific mechanism. Is there anything really new here except more theory on mechanism?
Magical thinkers, if they've researched the field at all, have never had a problem dismissing chemistry in favor of magic poofing. They're not easily flummoxed by reason, mathematics or inconvenient facts.
How many centuries did it take before the church finally conceded that Galileo might have had a point?
Among the educated classes it's always been assumed that life arose through some understandable, scientific mechanism. Is there anything really new here except more theory on mechanism?
Magical thinkers, if they've researched the field at all, have never had a problem dismissing chemistry in favor of magic poofing. They're not easily flummoxed by reason, mathematics or inconvenient facts.
How many centuries did it take before the church finally conceded that Galileo might have had a point?
No, Molecules don't change. If the taste of water changes it's because something else has been added or deleted.
I think I'll take your insightful dismissal under advisement until I have a better sense of your credentials and credibility in the field.
Sapiens
Polymathematician
Not a new theory, but an interesting one. It was batted about when I was an undergrad (late 1960s). Back then the though was that life was inevitable, perhaps in any environ that would permit it, having an oxidizer, a reducer, a liquid medium, a liquid/gaseous interface, and a constant though not severe energy source.
Imaginary_Friends
Member
What a quack.
Inorganic molecules becoming organic molecules through mixing and exposure to various energy sources, then becoming a self-replicating microscopic amino acid, sure.
A plant? That throws off everything proposed about a last common ancestor and the fossil layer supporting such.
The horse you're riding is too lame to make it out the barn door.
Imaginary_Friends
Member
Was that suppose to be intelligible?
As an animist, I don't believe there is such a thing as "non"-life, but that's my only quibble with their way of putting it.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Organic means that the molecule contains hydrocarbons. Hydrocarbons and amino acids have been found in space, naturally. Self-replicating lipids have been found to do this naturally. So what do you think organic molecules consist of, and what is it that makes them organic?
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The Earth Peoples.
outhouse
Atheistically
It makes sense.
I have always followed this as compared to panspermia.
They have life down to a 400,000 year window when the earth cooled enough and water stable enough for cyanobacteria to form.
Its chemistry combined with time, and yes converting energy in this environment chemically, I see no reason to discount life would form. We know it did.
And creationist are in a constant state of denial, so I see this changing not one part of their fanaticism or fundamentalism.
outhouse
Atheistically
I like water, for chemical reactions to be able to take place over thousands of years.
Anaerobic is actually fine, not all life needs it now, and cyanobacteria grows fine either way.
We know temp was not to hot, as we had water, and I doubt it was cold, so it looks like temperature was not a factor.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
yea cant be anything else.
Sapiens
Polymathematician
Yes, one of the most spot on comments made.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
I believe God created the right conditions for life. God's energy was needed to form life in our universe.
outhouse
Atheistically
Unsubstantiated that any mythology as ever required.