Accused Parkland school shooter gets fan mail and admirers

[Shaul]

Accused Parkland high school shooter Nikolas Cruz is receiving fan mail, money, and even romantic offers while awaiting trial for killing 17.

Crazed girls flood Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz with fan mail

 

[Axe Elf]

New Gun Control Law (proposed): No one may purchase a firearm of any kind during the same lifetime in which they send fan mail, money or romantic offers to an accused mass shooter.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

That happens all the time with high-profile murderers. The media needs to stop publicizing the killers. There's still a ton of people who believe the Columbine killers were heroic outsiders and just getting revenge on bullies, because that's the narrative the media pushed at first. It inspires a lot of copycats. So they need to be more responsible and stop giving the killers so much attention.

Those people who dawn over the killers are psychologically disturbed. They need help themselves. Others think they can save them somehow and are just misguided. While others just want to pray for their soul.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yeah. Manson, Bundy, Kaczynski, Gacy, Zodiac Killer, and others also have fans and admirers. It's nothing too unusual.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That happens all the time with high-profile murderers. The media needs to stop publicizing the killers. There's still a ton of people who believe the Columbine killers were heroic outsiders and just getting revenge on bullies, because that's the narrative the media pushed at first. It inspires a lot of copycats. So they need to be more responsible and stop giving the killers so much attention.

Those people who dawn over the killers are psychologically disturbed. They need help themselves. Others think they can save them somehow and are just misguided. While others just want to pray for their soul.

It is hard not to, but I do like the attempts of some news stations not to mention the names of such killers. If they disappeared into anonymity that would be ideal, but then that could be a bit scary if it was applied to political prisoners.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Case in point why the media should stop making "Heroes" out of these people.

 

[Curious George]

That happens all the time with high-profile murderers. The media needs to stop publicizing the killers. There's still a ton of people who believe the Columbine killers were heroic outsiders and just getting revenge on bullies, because that's the narrative the media pushed at first. It inspires a lot of copycats. So they need to be more responsible and stop giving the killers so much attention.

Those people who dawn over the killers are psychologically disturbed. They need help themselves. Others think they can save them somehow and are just misguided. While others just want to pray for their soul.

And the media simply pass the buck by saying they are just giving the people what they want. It is alarming that very few in the media and in the public seem to care about perpetuating this cycle.

 

[oldbadger]

New Gun Control Law (proposed): No one may purchase a firearm of any kind during the same lifetime in which they send fan mail, money or romantic offers to an accused mass shooter.

You mean 'convicted', don't you?

Where I live to be accused is not a conviction, just an indictment.

 

[Sunstone]

Two observations:

Carole Lieberman is probably right that the women attracted to Cruz have suffered dysfunctional relationships with their fathers making them feel unlovable, and/or are seeking vicarious power and importance through Cruz. At least that makes a whole lot of sense to me.

Second, the numbers of people who are trying to contact Cruz are a tiny, tiny fraction of one percent of the population of America. Their numbers don't even rise to the level of statistical significance.

 

[Axe Elf]

You mean 'convicted', don't you?

Where I live to be accused is not a conviction, just an indictment.

No, I meant "accused." If someone is sending fan mail, money, or romantic offers to someone who is even accused of such a deed, I don't think we need to wait for a conviction to question their suitability in regards to owning a firearm.

The only amendment I might make to my original proposal would be to specify that the fan mail, money, or romantic offers were made AFTER the accusation--so that people who did those things BEFORE the individual was accused of a mass shooting would be off the hook.

 

[David T]

That happens all the time with high-profile murderers. The media needs to stop publicizing the killers. There's still a ton of people who believe the Columbine killers were heroic outsiders and just getting revenge on bullies, because that's the narrative the media pushed at first. It inspires a lot of copycats. So they need to be more responsible and stop giving the killers so much attention.

Those people who dawn over the killers are psychologically disturbed. They need help themselves. Others think they can save them somehow and are just misguided. While others just want to pray for their soul.

The media needs.to do what? That makes no sense. They aren't.some moral guide or compass they are a roaming lens, pointing at what we want them to point at. The dork holding the camera just points it, the talking dorks just comment on it that's it. Journalism has no "moral compass" it simply is allowed to point the camera and some dimwits give their opinions on what is seen. I understand what you meant I empathize but.... we give the dorks too way way to much of our time to be honest. Which is valuable btw. They are just cameras and dorks.

 

[Revoltingest]

You mean 'convicted', don't you?

Where I live to be accused is not a conviction, just an indictment.

Conviction isn't the issue.
They send fan mail based upon the belief that the perp did the deed.
This indicates likely major mental incapacity.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

You mean 'convicted', don't you?

Where I live to be accused is not a conviction, just an indictment.

It doesn't matter if they're guilty, in this case. They are getting fan mail from people assuming they did it and romanticizing the whole thing.

 

[oldbadger]

No, I meant "accused." If someone is sending fan mail, money, or romantic offers to someone who is even accused of such a deed, I don't think we need to wait for a conviction to question their suitability in regards to owning a firearm.

The only amendment I might make to my original proposal would be to specify that the fan mail, money, or romantic offers were made AFTER the accusation--so that people who did those things BEFORE the individual was accused of a mass shooting would be off the hook.

I wouldn't want to see a mass-murderer receive popularity in any way at all, I do get your point about that.

But let's just say that somehow, by bad luck and being in the wrong place at wrong time, you got accused of a Capital Offence (which you didn't commit).
And while you are on remand awaiting trial your Mum, partner, friend etc wants to send you a letter or money to help you out, and it is all reused and turned away by the authorities who then arrest the senders!!!!!

Most folks here do understand your basic point, but be careful what you wish for.

 

[oldbadger]

Conviction isn't the issue.
They send fan mail based upon the belief that the perp did the deed.
This indicates likely major mental incapacity.

Yeah...... fair enough.
But we will certainly want to write to you and send you sweets and stuff if by any chance you got arrested for a capital offence you didn't commit, preferably without getting nicked ourselves!

You know we'd all want to help, Revolting, surely?

Desert you in your time of need? Never!

 

[oldbadger]

It doesn't matter if they're guilty, in this case. They are getting fan mail from people assuming they did it and romanticizing the whole thing.

@Revoltingest has already bullied me about this.
Trouble is, if some 'expert' would write legislation to cover this you can be 100% certain it would be a 100% mess up, and we wouldn't be able to send treats to Revolting if he somehow got nicked for a serious offence he never did commit..... he was delivering some dirty piece of Victorian metal to a museum in New York State when something dreadful had happened just down the road from his place in Detroit.

That's all. Sometimes systems designed to help the good'uns just do help the bad'uns ...... is all.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

@Revoltingest has already bullied me about this.
Trouble is, if some 'expert' would write legislation to cover this you can be 100% certain it would be a 100% mess up, and we wouldn't be able to send treats to Revolting if he somehow got nicked for a serious offence he never did commit..... he was delivering some dirty piece of Victorian metal to a museum in New York State when something dreadful had happened just down the road from his place in Detroit.

That's all. Sometimes systems designed to help the good'uns just do help the bad'uns ...... is all.

Welp, don't think I'd go the legislation route, to be honest. Not really a problem to fix, ER see. Kinda wrankles, though.