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ACLU Director Quits After Daughters’ Bathroom Ordeal -
- Thread starter esmith
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If they were trans men then they were female-at-birth transitioned or transitioning men, the very people conservatives are trying to force into being in their assigned-at-birth bathrooms.
Like this dude http://newscult.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/menshealththumb.jpg Conservatives would have him going into women's bathrooms because he was born female. I suspect the article just got it wrong and assumed 'trans men' means biological men with female gender identity (it doesn't). But it still shows how the issue is so silly. One way or another you're going to have people who don't look like the societal expectations for sex entering into a restroom. So you may as well not be a dick by presuming they're a danger to you. As these girls did. It's telling that the article never states that these transgendered individuals actually did anything apart from being there.
Anyway. Being an advocate of LGB hasn't stopped many people from being transphobic on the 'T' part.
Like this dude http://newscult.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/menshealththumb.jpg Conservatives would have him going into women's bathrooms because he was born female. I suspect the article just got it wrong and assumed 'trans men' means biological men with female gender identity (it doesn't). But it still shows how the issue is so silly. One way or another you're going to have people who don't look like the societal expectations for sex entering into a restroom. So you may as well not be a dick by presuming they're a danger to you. As these girls did. It's telling that the article never states that these transgendered individuals actually did anything apart from being there.
Anyway. Being an advocate of LGB hasn't stopped many people from being transphobic on the 'T' part.
It's interesting that she said the ACLU has a hierarchy of rights which depends on interest group finance. I am wondering if she should have stayed and fought it out but I suspect she may have tried that. That doesn't reflect well on the ACLU if this is how it actually works.
Beyond that- not sure.
Altfish
Veteran Member
I am sceptical about the story, it only seems to be appearing in fringe press. Put a google search and non of the main news outlets have it.
However, if they were MEN weren't they in the wrong room??
Looking at the home page for this blog, I've a strong suspicion of some bias against trans folk.
This makes the term used, "transgendered men" questionable, perhaps a misnomer to heighten outrage.
Biased, fringe article, nothing more.
I don't know what happened.
But if it's true this person resigned from the ACLU, then this is probably a good thing.
averageJOE
zombie
My thoughts are: has she always been looking over the stalls that were being used?
Draka
Wonder Woman
If they were transgender men they they were going exactly where conservatives want them to go. Doesn't matter how big and burly they are, if they have a penis or not, conservatives want those born female to use the female restroom. If they were transgender women then the article writer doesn't know what they are talking about from the get go and it leaves anything they say upon the subject suspect.
If this lady was really all pro-LGBT rights and equality then she shouldn't have had such an issue explaining to her children about transgenders. Would have done it before the supposed issue even arose. Another thing that makes this article highly suspect.
This thing is just ridiculous. Children can and do understand far more than what they are given credit for. My daughter is a whole whopping 7 years old and she understands it. It really isn't that hard to explain. The only ones having a hard time explaining it to their children are the ones who either don't understand it themselves (and likely don't want to) and/or the ones who find it "wrong" on religious standing. Honestly, with those people, their children probably could understand it better than them. Precisely why they don't want their kids taught about it. They want them as ignorant as they are.
If this lady was really all pro-LGBT rights and equality then she shouldn't have had such an issue explaining to her children about transgenders. Would have done it before the supposed issue even arose. Another thing that makes this article highly suspect.
This thing is just ridiculous. Children can and do understand far more than what they are given credit for. My daughter is a whole whopping 7 years old and she understands it. It really isn't that hard to explain. The only ones having a hard time explaining it to their children are the ones who either don't understand it themselves (and likely don't want to) and/or the ones who find it "wrong" on religious standing. Honestly, with those people, their children probably could understand it better than them. Precisely why they don't want their kids taught about it. They want them as ignorant as they are.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Ya, as others have pointed out, get more information. This is a hot topic in conservative media land, so that's a red flag right there. Must do more fact checking for further information.
Can we just lock the thread now that you've basically won?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It says "transgendered men", which means a man who despite being born female, appears like any other male. Thus it's understandable why women might be taken aback by the presence of men, cis or trans, in their restroom, so this serves as an example as to why transgendered people should be allowed to use the restroom that coincides with how they identify. Force a man to use the women's restroom just because he was born a girl, and issues like the one in the OP will occur. Thank you @esmith for the pro transgender equality post.
(yes, I know the article's and poster's real intent. I'm being facetious.)
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Yes. You're fear mongering.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
Careful what you wish for, I guess.
esmith
Veteran Member
No not really, I could care less who uses what toilet facility. I got over that in 1961 on my first visit to Japan.
So as far as the post goes I was just curious to see what comments would surface.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Is Rush and RW media still scaring people telling them that boys will be showering with girls? Rush is wrong 99.7% of the time, but he works for the establishment elites. So that's expected.
No, he's being provocative, which is much better.