actually how to stop Cruz Thread

[robocop (actually)]

I hope I didn't change my mind too late, but I actually think Donald Trump might be better. I read an article talking about the very near future where politicians will be too slow and unskilled labor will be out of work, with robots doing everything. People will still need to find food. It was pro-Bernie Sanders

I know we can't expect the Democrat party to win every election - that's just not where America is - let alone Bernie! I think of the two leading Republicans, Donald Trump has put forth a health plan and he says he doesn't want people dying in the streets. Since America needs to let Republicans in some of the time, it might be better now than later, or not.. maybe we need to establish ourselves fighting climate change. I don't know. Donald Trump admits to mostly man-made climate change and would probably fight it if he felt it was a good economic deal, which is better than what Ted Cruz offers, right?

Food, Housing and healthcare will be very important soon - and I guess Donald Trump is slightly better.

All this could be wrong - I don't know much about it - so feel free to correct anything in this post. As I think now, I actually want Donald Trump for the Republican nominee.

 

[Sunstone]

Even if Donald Trump announced tomorrow a platform that would turn America into a paradise, I would not find him a credible candidate for the presidency. There is an issue of character here.

We are are talking of a man who defrauds people. A man who apparently cannot control his temper. A man who seems to enjoy bullying people. A narcissistic man who is notably thin-skinned. A man who some fact checking organizations rank near the very top of their list of liars. And all of that is just to begin to asses his character.

Those criticisms of his character don't even begin to take into account his lack of experience in politics and public office, etc.

I grant that he's an outsider whose message is in some ways attractive, but what are the odds of such a flawed human delivering on his message? What are the chances such a notable bully will keep or even is capable of keeping his promises?

Donald is like a glamorous $1000/night call girl whose sexy dress hides the fact she's got gonorrhea, syphilis and aids -- and she wants you to pay for the "privilege" of her infecting you with her diseases.

But for all that, I agree with you -- Ted Cruz is worse than Donald Trump.

 

[Iti oj]

Even if Donald Trump announced tomorrow a platform that would turn America into a paradise, I would not find him a credible candidate for the presidency. There is an issue of character here.

We are are talking of a man who defrauds people. A man who apparently cannot control his temper. A man who seems to enjoy bullying people. A narcissistic man who is notably thin-skinned. A man who some fact checking organizations rank near the very top of their list of liars. And all of that is just to begin to asses his character.

Those criticisms of his character don't even begin to take into account his lack of experience in politics and public office, etc.

I wouldn't vote for him even if he promised me the moon.

hey listen you voted for that guy that one time and all he did was moon you, its time to let it go.

 

[Iti oj]

Even if Donald Trump announced tomorrow a platform that would turn America into a paradise, I would not find him a credible candidate for the presidency. There is an issue of character here.

We are are talking of a man who defrauds people. A man who apparently cannot control his temper. A man who seems to enjoy bullying people. A narcissistic man who is notably thin-skinned. A man who some fact checking organizations rank near the very top of their list of liars. And all of that is just to begin to asses his character.

Those criticisms of his character don't even begin to take into account his lack of experience in politics and public office, etc.

I wouldn't vote for him even if he promised me the moon.

voting for him isn't the same thing as seeing him as second threat to Cruz or Rubio.

 

[robocop (actually)]

I mean Hillary Clinton is doing marvelous, but I just feel I should be defensive. Donald Trump has responsible Health Savings Accounts, has said he doesn't want people starving in the streets, and admits to global warming.
Ted Cruz puts all the burden on the poor and none on the rich... exactly the opposite of what it should be. No rich person needs his tax cuts as dramatically as he is suggesting they should be.

On his own website Cruz says, "In July 2015, the Office of Inspector General for HUD discovered that the federal government provides public-housing assistance to over 25,000 families whose income exceeds HUD’s 2014 eligibility limits. Some were even millionaires. The OIG estimated that taxpayers will pay $104.4 million for the housing of these families over the next year." Oh wow! Let's not pay $104.4 million but lets give a 10% income tax to anyone. In fact, he wants to abolish the whole thing... people will be out of shelter because of $104.4 million due to a few abusing the system?

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

I mean Hillary Clinton is doing marvelous, but I just feel I should be defensive. Donald Trump has responsible Health Savings Accounts, has said he doesn't want people starving in the streets, and admits to global warming.
Ted Cruz puts all the burden on the poor and none on the rich... exactly the opposite of what it should be. No rich person needs his tax cuts as dramatically as he is suggesting they should be.

On his own website Cruz says, "In July 2015, the Office of Inspector General for HUD discovered that the federal government provides public-housing assistance to over 25,000 families whose income exceeds HUD’s 2014 eligibility limits. Some were even millionaires. The OIG estimated that taxpayers will pay $104.4 million for the housing of these families over the next year." Oh wow! Let's not pay $104.4 million but lets give a 10% income tax to anyone. In fact, he wants to abolish the whole thing... people will be out of shelter because of $104.4 million due to a few abusing the system?

Where does Trump admit to global warming? He appears to be pretty skeptical of man-made climate change: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-global-warming_us_5601d04fe4b08820d91aa753

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/265895292191248385

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I'm not to assured by either Cruz or Trump personally, and its hard for me to say which is worse. I could point to things they've both did and said that strike me as awful, and arguably worse than the other. It should worry Americans that this is what our elections have come down to on the Republican side. Whatever happened to the old school Republicans that at least believed in the democratic process and knew what compromise was?

 

[Altfish]

I'm not to assured by either Cruz or Trump personally, and its hard for me to say which is worse. I could point to things they've both did and said that strike me as awful, and arguably worse than the other. It should worry Americans that this is what our elections have come down to on the Republican side. Whatever happened to the old school Republicans that at least believed in the democratic process and knew what compromise was?

As someone on the outside looking in...
I fear Cruz because of his religious bigotry
I fear Trump because he is a fraud and a liar, too fond of himself and a failed business man

Neither is someone I'm looking forward to; the Democrats are offering slightly better but they don't encourage me either.

 

[BSM1]

As someone on the outside looking in...
I fear Cruz because of his religious bigotry
I fear Trump because he is a fraud and a liar, too fond of himself and a failed business man

Neither is someone I'm looking forward to; the Democrats are offering slightly better but they don't encourage me either.

You mean some one as squeaky clean as Hillary? Hmm....show of hands, which candidates can be held responsible for deaths of employees in their charge.

 

[Altfish]

You mean some one as squeaky clean as Hillary? Hmm....show of hands, which candidates can be held responsible for deaths of employees in their charge.

If you're on about Benghazi, that is one of the reasons the GOP will lose the election. There have been more investigations into Benghazi than there were into Bush's culpability (or not) for 9/11 and yet they still harp on about it.

 

[metis]

If you're on about Benghazi, that is one of the reasons the GOP will lose the election. There have been more investigations into Benghazi than there were into Bush's culpability (or not) for 9/11 and yet they still harp on about it.

Yep, and like with the issue with her server, there's at least a couple people here who have found her guilty on Benghazi as well. "Innocent until proven guilty" is simply not part of what they believe in.

 

[BSM1]

If you're on about Benghazi, that is one of the reasons the GOP will lose the election. There have been more investigations into Benghazi than there were into Bush's culpability (or not) for 9/11 and yet they still harp on about it.

It was her watch.

Yep, and like with the issue with her server, there's at least a couple people here who have found her guilty on Benghazi as well. "Innocent until proven guilty" is simply not part of what they believe in.

It was her watch.

 

[Altfish]

It was her watch.
.

So do you think Bush should go through the same scrutiny over 9/11, after all, "It was HIS watch"

 

[BSM1]

So do you think Bush should go through the same scrutiny over 9/11, after all, "It was HIS watch"

Pretty sure he's been anally examined countless times. Nothing to see here.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Pretty sure he's been anally examined countless times. Nothing to see here.

Americans are weird, submitting their Presidents to anal examinations for unrelated issues.

 

[Altfish]

Americans are weird, submitting their Presidents to anal examinations for unrelated issues.

It's better than virginal probes that many in the GOP recommend.

 

[Altfish]

Pretty sure he's been anally examined countless times. Nothing to see here.

Same comment can be applied to Benghazi, it's been examined more times than 9/11

 

[robocop (actually)]

Where does Trump admit to global warming? He appears to be pretty skeptical of man-made climate change: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-global-warming_us_5601d04fe4b08820d91aa753

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/265895292191248385

http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

Donald Trump on Energy and Oil

“Maybe some climate change is manmade, but not all. (Jun 2015)”

Full quote:
Q: the overwhelming majority of scientists say climate change is real and it's manmade.

A: Well, there could be some manmade, too. I mean, I'm not saying there's zero, but not nearly to the extent [others say]. When Obama gets up and said it's the number one problem of our country--and, if it is, why is it that we have to do our and clean up our factories now, and China doesn't have to do it for another 30 or 35 years in their wonderful agreement, you know, our wonderful negotiators?

China has agreed to cut coal 60% by 2020 and try to get rid of it somewhere around 2030, I think. If I don't edit this assume its true.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

Donald Trump on Energy and Oil

“Maybe some climate change is manmade, but not all. (Jun 2015)”

That was before he ran for President, haha.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Indeed, China has agreed to cut coal 60% by 2020 and try to get rid of it somewhere around 2030.