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(Africa) As Americans are getting fatter

Spiderman

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1.1 billion people in our world are facing water scarcity. 1.1 billion people, 1 in six people faces lack of access to something so basic as drinking water. Wtf?
Sub-Saharan Africa had the largest number of water-stressed countries of any other place on the planet and of an estimated 800 million people who live in Africa, 300 million live in a water stressed environment
Water scarcity in Africa - Wikipedia

3/8 of the African people are fighting for something as basic as water. Estimates number up to 700 million people who are displaced over conditions that are increasingly unlivable and people are in stress and panic over a precious resource that we take for granted, that a human can barely live 3 days without.

"African women are disproportionally burdened by scarcity of clean drinking water. In most African societies, women are seen as the collectors, managers, and guardians of water, especially within the domestic sphere that includes household chores, cooking, washing, and child rearing.[11] Because of these traditional gender labor roles, women are forced to spend around sixty percent of each day collecting water, which translates to approximately 200 million collective work hours by women globally per day[12] and a decrease in the amount of time available for education. Water scarcity exacerbates this issue, as indicated by the correlation of decrease in access to water with a decrease in combined primary, secondary, and tertiary enrollment of women.[10]

For African women, their daily role in clean water retrieval often means carrying the typical
jerrycan that can weigh over 40 pounds when full[7] for an average of six kilometers each day.[1] This has health consequences such as permanent skeletal damage from carrying heavy loads of water over long distances each day,[9] which translates to a physical strain that contributes to increased stress, increased time spent in health recovery, and decreased ability to not only physically attend educational facilities, but also mentally absorb education due to the effect of stress on decision-making and memory skills.
Water scarcity in Africa - Wikipedia"


There is a fairly frequent violence and bloodshed in: Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Somalia, Uganda, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Western Sahara, Democratic Republic of Congo and Chad. Here is a map of countries in Africa with ongoing conflict:
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The group, Boko Haram, has openly pledged its allegiance to other terrorist outfits like al-Qaeda and ISIL (or ISIS, for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria). Boko Haram wishes to outlaw western education, and even education itself, and follow a radical interpretation of Islam that oppresses women, and kills non-muslims, and even muslims who don't want to follow such extremist views..

They have kidnapped hundreds of school girls who have given testimonies of rape, torture, and slavery.
Boko Haram's Atrocities Against Humanity · Guardian Liberty Voice
In addition to the conflict deaths, there have been
over 9 million refugees and internally displaced people. While refugee numbers in recent years have declined, the number of internally displaced has risen


If this scale of destruction and fighting was in Europe, then people would be calling it World War III with the entire world rushing to report, provide aid, mediate and otherwise try to diffuse the situation.

Yet here, as mentioned in the
media section of this web site, and noted by Virgil Hawkins, the western mainstream media does practically nothing to raise this awareness (or, perhaps it is not deemed important enough to report extensively about).
Conflicts in Africa—Introduction — Global Issues


The media does not give much coverage of the misery and human rights abuses in Africa.

In the regions of Port Loko and Masiaka, approximately 30 miles northeast of Freetown, Human Rights Watch has taken testimonies of survivors who describe decapitations, amputation of hands, mouths and ears, and scores of abductions of children and women by the RUF rebels.


"The world is captivated by the suffering in Kosovo," said Peter Takirambudde, Executive Director for Africa at Human Rights Watch. "Meanwhile, what's happening in Sierra Leone is unspeakable. Where is the global outrage?"

These rebels go around with machetes hacking people to death and cutting off people's hands and arms. Could you imagine having no hands or arms, and how much worse that would be than death, not even being able to feed yourself or wipe your own rear end for life? Such amputations were the calling card of rebels during Sierra Leone's 11-year conflict.

With the exception of Syria, African countries currently get the worst rep when it comes to violence and conflict. Virtually every story coming out of the continent seems to showcase one atrocity or another.

. In 2014, Africa experienced more than half of worldwide conflict incidents, despite having only about 16 percent of the world population. This is a slightly larger share of the world’s conflicts than even during the chaotic years of the post-Cold War 1990s.
The Wars Ravaging Africa in 2016

But Americans have a higher suicide rate and fret about things hundreds of millions in Africa don't even think about, because they are displaced, hungry, without running water, or facing the painful torturous death of thirst.

In my city, Americans can have food stamps, free meals at the Dorothy day and elsewhere, a shower, a cell phone with internet access, shelter, free bus cards, free wal-mart gift cards, free bus tokens, and free taxi rides to medical appointments, free healthcare, and free medication, without having to work.

I almost never hear about what's going on in Africa, and the hundreds of millions of people who live in fear, panic, homelessness, hunger, or thirst.


You are more likely to hear about celebrities like Kanye West or Paris Hilton making a silly remark...oh, and of course, Donald Trump's tweets.

Anyway, when should the west feel it is their burden or that they sould step in?

Poverty in Africa refers to the lack of basic human needs faced by certain people in African society. African nations typically fall toward the bottom of any list measuring small size economic activity, such as income per capita or GDP per capita, despite a wealth of natural resources.

In 1820, the average European worker earned about three times what the average African did. Now, the average European earns twenty times what the average African does.

Over $500 billion (U.S.) has been sent to African nations in the form of direct aid.[11][12] The consensus is that the money has had little long-term effect

In addition, most African nations have owed substantial sums of money. However, a large percentage of the money was either invested in weapons (money that was spent back in developed nations, and provided little or no benefit to the native population) or was directly misappropriated by corrupt governments.
Poverty in Africa - Wikipedia

So, donating money isn't necessarily helping the poor and falling into the hands of corrupt regimes. What is the solution you propose?
 
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Spiderman

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I say we bring them all to America and give Donald Trump a heart-attack, make his nightmares come true :p
 
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Stevicus

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Part of the problem that has been cited in regards to Africa is that the borders of the countries of Africa were drawn and based on the boundaries which were established during colonialism. As a result, it is s a continent of 54 small countries which were artificially created and which have been competing and fighting each other. A lot of ethnic and religious discord which keeps them divided and gives the Western former colonizers an advantage which still allows for exploitation.

It's not a food shortage. World-wide, we produce enough food for everybody. This is a transportation problem compounded by political strife. They need infrastructure.

The late great Sam Kinison observed this when he was offering his solution to world hunger. He said to stop sending them food. Instead, send them U-Hauls, luggage - and move these starving people to where the food is.


The other option might be to improve their transportation infrastructure, as well as install modern water delivery systems so they don't have to spend all their time "collecting water." The West can help them with that.

But the other problem is political. If someone wanted to build a superhighway from Capetown to Cairo, they'd have to deal with multiple governments - many of which are corrupt and brutal. They need to reorganize and restructure their borders so that they can be more unified, politically and economically.
 

Spiderman

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Part of the problem that has been cited in regards to Africa is that the borders of the countries of Africa were drawn and based on the boundaries which were established during colonialism. As a result, it is s a continent of 54 small countries which were artificially created and which have been competing and fighting each other. A lot of ethnic and religious discord which keeps them divided and gives the Western former colonizers an advantage which still allows for exploitation.

It's not a food shortage. World-wide, we produce enough food for everybody. This is a transportation problem compounded by political strife. They need infrastructure.

The late great Sam Kinison observed this when he was offering his solution to world hunger. He said to stop sending them food. Instead, send them U-Hauls, luggage - and move these starving people to where the food is.


The other option might be to improve their transportation infrastructure, as well as install modern water delivery systems so they don't have to spend all their time "collecting water." The West can help them with that.

But the other problem is political. If someone wanted to build a superhighway from Capetown to Cairo, they'd have to deal with multiple governments - many of which are corrupt and brutal. They need to reorganize and restructure their borders so that they can be more unified, politically and economically.
@Stevicus for President! :D
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Spiderman

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Should the west step in or leave them alone?

Do the more wealthy, educated, and powerful nations have a moral responsibility, burden, and obligation to help the destitute?
 

Stevicus

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Should the west step in or leave them alone?

Do the more wealthy, educated, and powerful nations have a moral responsibility, burden, and obligation to help the destitute?

Well, it probably would have been better if the West had left them alone 500 years ago. It's all spilled milk now, but the West should at least acknowledge its own responsibilities here.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Should the west step in or leave them alone?
I think the west has created enough of a mess, although Macron seems to think different.

You know why Chinese are taking over projects in Africa? Because the West always forces you to adopt some ideology while the Chinese work with you for mutual gain. They don't enforce religion, political reforms or regime change your government.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
The other option might be to improve their transportation infrastructure, as well as install modern water delivery systems so they don't have to spend all their time "collecting water." The West can help them with that.

A number of years ago when I lived in Kansas City Missouri in a working class area we had some pretty atrocious potholes on our street, people always complained about them so we decided to get together and make a combined effort pestering city hall and the city manager until the potholes got fixed. About three months after numerous calls, complaints, and badgering, the city finally agreed to come and fix the potholes and the day the crew came I remember well. My kitchen faced the street and it was a nice day so I had the window open and I was starting some coffee, a city truck pulled up about 7:45 a.m. they technically didn't start work until 8:00 a.m. There were three city workers in the truck and I heard them talking, joking, and passing back and forth what seemed to be a bottle of some cheap wine. A couple of them got into an argument because apparently one thought the other guy took a bigger drink of wine than he should have so they argued and actually got out threatening and cursing and calling each other m*****f*****s and so forth. When it seemed it was only going to be resolved by coming to blows the other man (apparently the crew chief) got between them and got them back into the truck and then they pulled off. This was before cell phones and everyone had a camera or video but this was pure gold, the potholes were still there about 6 months later when I moved.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Maybe some of the fatties in Africa should donate the money they spend on junk food and other useless items to help their 54 nations? They could also volunteer to help build infrastructure and the physical labour might help them lose weight therefore reducing their chances of obesity related diseases.

As Africa grows more prosperous, obesity grows as a problem

WHO Worries Africans are Getting Too Fat - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Is SA the ‘fattest nation’ in sub-Saharan Africa, with a third of people obese? | Africa Check

The World Is Getting Fatter and No One Knows How to Stop It

South African KFC push:
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Hungry lion and their pride bucket:


So no moderator is going to check this racist sh*t?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
All I know is if I was faced with what billions of people are born into, I would resent God for not sterilizing Mom and Dad.

My question for fellow Theists like @KenS and @Deeje , why does our "loving Father" form hundreds of millions of people in the womb and then refuse to provide for them?

God is more wealthy than Bill Gates by far, and he watches children he loves suffer lives of chronic torture, hunger, thirst, and birth defects through no fault of their own, and is there much evidence the cares?.

How could abortion not be the best thing for countless millions of tortured souls?

(I'm not just talking about Africa... tortured souls are everywhere...I see it even in America, where the suicide rate is quite higher).
 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
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All I know is if I was faced with what billions of people are born into, I would resent God for not sterilizing Mom and Dad.

My question for fellow Theists like @KenS and @Deeje , why does our "loving Father" form hundreds of millions of people in the womb and then refuse to provide for them?

Actually, He has provided. It is mankind that is withholding the goods:

As much as half of all the food produced in the world – equivalent to 2bn tonnes – ends up as waste every year, engineers warned in a report published on Thursday.

Almost half of the world's food thrown away, report finds
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
How was my post racist?
It wasn't politically correct... in today's culture, if political correctness declares that the sky is green, you'll offend people by declaring that the sky is blue.

You will be called racist, hillbilly, and redneck for simply providing facts that would indicate that some people are better off as a result of their ancestors being brought forcefully to America.

It isn't a pleasant thing to discuss, and you will make enemies with good people making such statements. But I don't see how it is good for race-relations, to ignore the positive side of European contributions.

Sometimes you can't present facts.

Western Civilization has done a lot to provide people with plumbing, running water, electricity, technology, Civilization, education, modern medicine, and other inventions, that they otherwise wouldn't have. Hundreds of thousands of people of European descent have shed their blood to end slavery, end white privilege, and create equality.

I see no one who has done a better job of creating equality between race and gender, freedom of speech, and freedom of religion, than Western Civilization.

I feel that is often ignored, and just Politically Incorrect to talk about, while focusing on things like slavery, and demonizing Europeans is accepted, while slavery still runs rampant elsewhere. I feel the rule is not applied fairly across the board and there is a huge double standard.
 
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