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after Jesus the spiritual tradition with jack

alishan

Active Member
after jesus , was there a transmission by jack ? generation after generation like a heiring spiritual chain from Jesus to Jack to an other to an other...
sorry my english is not standard
 

alishan

Active Member
in wikipedia it s written that in the beginning of christianity people follow a master for exemple an apostle who create a regional church (pierre for the occident, marc for the egyptian copte, thomas for the indian christian)

do you have more information? thanks
 

alishan

Active Member
in wikipedia it s said that the first chief of jerusalem church was jack then it was simeon and then there was 13 chief in 28 years

who were they?

thnks
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Jesus personally taught 12 Apostles. Those apostles were given the responsibility to teach others the things that Christ taught them. But eventually these men died (all before the end of the 1st century ce) and other christians had to take over the teaching and preaching work.

But christianity is founded on the teachings of Christ as explained by first apostles. These teachings were written down in the New Testament christian greek scriptures. Initially all christians were teachers, there were no priests or bishops or popes. The experienced christian teachers were called 'elders' and they instructed the congregations in what the previous Apostles had taught. The christians were one unified group even though they lived in different areas.

Somewhere around 2/3rd century, some of these christians began to rise up and seize control of the congregations and things began to change...some made themselves leaders of the various congregations, they formed into churches with bishops and priests and a clergy class and then once these men were in charge of the churches they went even further by introducing new and different teachings which were not from the first apostles. This is how the church became so divided and its why there are over 30,000 different christian denominations today.


But the true basis of Christs teachings is still there in the greek scriptures and if a church only teaches what is in there, then they are teaching what Christ taught his apostles.
 
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alishan

Active Member
and after simeon who was the chief of the jerusalem church?
i have red that there was 13 chief in 28 years after him

thank you and sorry for my english not standard
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
and after simeon who was the chief of the jerusalem church?
i have red that there was 13 chief in 28 years after him

thank you and sorry for my english not standard

thats ok, my english isnt always too great either :)

there was never any 'chief' in the early christian churches.. .all christians were on the same level. Some were more prominent then others because of their abilities to teach, but no one in particular was the central head of the church. Only Christ held that position. And actually over 60 years after Jesus ascended to heaven, he showed that he knew each of the congregations personally. Through the apostle John, Jesus sent messages to seven congregations...to five of them he said: “I know your deeds.” and he gave them specific encouragement and counsel based on their needs. So the early christians knew that their one and only leader was governing their activity from heaven. Thats why they did not assign anyone from among them to the position of the 'chief' or 'leader' of the church.
 

alishan

Active Member
dmgdooc it s exactly what i wanted

  • Marc (134-156), premier patriarche à ne pas être d'origine juive.
  • Cassien (?-?)
  • Publius (?-?)
  • Maxime Ier (?-?)
  • Julien Ier (?-?)
  • Gaïus Ier (?-?)
  • Symmaque (?-?)
  • Gaïus II (?-162)
  • Julien II (162-?)
  • Capiton (?-?)
  • Maxime II (?-?)
  • Antonin (?-?)
  • Valens (?-?)
  • Dolichien ou Dolichianus (?-185)
  • Narcisse Ier (185-?), calomnié, dut temporairement s'exiler[6].
  • Dius (?-?), gouverna peu de temps.
  • Germanion (?-?), mourut peu de temps après son élection.
  • Gorde ou Gordius (?-211)
  • Narcisse Ier (restauré) (?-231)
  • Alexandre (231-249)
  • Mazabane (249-260)
  • Iménée ou Hyménée (260-276). On dit de lui qu'« il assista aux deux conciles tenus contre Paul de Samosate, évêque d'Antioche »[7].
  • Zamudas, Zabdas ou Bazas (276-283)
  • Hermon (283-314)
  • Macaire Ier (314-333)
 
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