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Age of Earth

outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
elijoe_15 said:
A fact is something that is indisputably the case therefore it would have to be proven which Science can't do.
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This is taught in EVERY credible university in EVERY country around the world.

Why fight education and knowledge? do you have evidence mythology is a better explanation?


IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution


We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

  1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
  2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
  3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
  4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
outhouse said:
This is taught in EVERY credible university in EVERY country around the world.

Why fight education and knowledge? do you have evidence mythology is a better explanation?


IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution


We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

  1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
  2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
  3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
  4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
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That is not only not true but even if it was it is still false.God made the world whether you like it or not.It is not at all mythology
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
elijoe_15 said:
The world around me is all the evidence all need and I'm referring to the Christian God,the only one that matters.
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Im sorry but that is not credible evidence that can refute what is taught in every single credible university world wide.


So you cannot refute a single statement with credibility?

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

  1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
  2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
  3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
  4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
elijoe_15 said:
the Christian God,the only one that matters.
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The only one that matters to you. Not to science, and to universities, not to academia nor professors when it comes to the age of the earth.


Please feel free to share credible evidence in support of a date that is different from the established date not in argument in any educated circle.
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
outhouse said:
Im sorry but that is not credible evidence that can refute what is taught in every single credible university world wide.


So you cannot refute a single statement with credibility?

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

  1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
  2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
  3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
  4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
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Dude that fact that you think our intricate and complicated lives "just happened"from a bang is utterly ridiculous,even if you don't believe in the Christian God then you should at least be able to admit that some supernatural being created it.
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
outhouse said:
The only one that matters to you. Not to science, and to universities, not to academia nor professors when it comes to the age of the earth.


Please feel free to share credible evidence in support of a date that is different from the established date not in argument in any educated circle.
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If you refuse God man I feel sorry for you because God created all of those things and if they choose to not believe what's right in front of their face then they are idiots.
 
Shad

Shad

Veteran Member
elijoe_15 said:
A fact is something that is indisputably the case therefore it would have to be proven which Science can't do.
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Science deals with probability. You have an expectation of science outside of it's methods and models. There are scientific facts which uses these models. So within proper context there are facts within science, just that these facts do not hold the same meaning as fact outside of science. It seems like you are trying to shoehorn in the religious version of fact which is an absolute position. Thus your comment is nothing but an objection to your own strawman.
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
elijoe_15 said:
There are so many different views on how old the earth is,so regardless of how it came about,why do you think the earth is the age that it is and how do you know that your belief is accurate,or is it all just a hypothesis?
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Calling the age of the earth just a hypothesis would basically be saying that The Periodic Table and everything we know about chemistry to be just a hypothesis.

"By their chemical nature, rock minerals contain certain elements and not others; but in rocks containing radioactive isotopes, the process of radioactive decay generates exotic elements over time. By measuring the concentration of the stable end product of the decay, coupled with knowledge of the half life and initial concentration of the decaying element, the age of the rock can be calculated.[21] Typical radioactive end products are argon from decay ofpotassium-40, and lead from decay of uranium and thorium.[21] If the rock becomes molten, as happens in Earth'smantle, such nonradioactive end products typically escape or are redistributed.[21] Thus the age of the oldest terrestrial rock gives a minimum for the age of Earth, assuming that no rock has been intact for longer than the Earth itself."

Age of the Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
elijoe_15 said:
you should at least be able to admit that some supernatural being created it.
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Look bud were all friends here.

But we have been debating the god of the gaps in knowledge for years here. Because you cannot understand how a singularity created time and space, which our universe is full of singularities, does not mean others lack that knowledge.


Nothing cam from nothing. Math dictates a singularity expanded and black holes are singularities. There is no place any mythology can be applied to our current understanding of nature.


Many cultures have creation mythology. Its the 100% lack of evidence from each and every one that is telling.
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
elijoe_15 said:
Dude that fact that you think our intricate and complicated lives "just happened"from a bang is utterly ridiculous,even if you don't believe in the Christian God then you should at least be able to admit that some supernatural being created it.
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There's no indication whatsoever that a supernatural being created anything.

Besides, "bang" is a misnomer, as many scientists stress these days. The big bang (astronomy) has nothing to do with natural selection (biology), which also has nothing to do with the age of the earth (geology). The world I see around me is a world of Gods and Wights, itself alive.
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
Riverwolf said:
There's no indication whatsoever that a supernatural being created anything.

Besides, "bang" is a misnomer, as many scientists stress these days. The big bang (astronomy) has nothing to do with natural selection (biology), which also has nothing to do with the age of the earth (geology). The world I see around me is a world of Gods and Wights, itself alive.
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There is every indication that a supernatural being created it.How can you even begin to think that all the complexities of the universe are just coincidence?
 
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