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Agnostics, call in

Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

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I'm just a regular agnostic. I don't believe, but I don't disbelieve. I do know there are things out there that we do not see, do not know, and do not understand, but I know not what to call it or what it is.
So I am just an agnostic.
 
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Unveiled Artist

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disciple said:
Circular reasoning.
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Oh?

Say youre solving my favorite math problem: 2 and 2 is 4.

Say the equation is 2 + X = 4

You take what you know "2" and "4" to solve for what you dont know, "X".

Agnostics seem to stop at "we dont know X so thats it".

Theist are more "why solve for X? Accept the equation as is".

Then an atheist comes along and says, "hey, now, what a second! We have the numbers why Not solve the problem?"

Agnostic: Cause we dont know what X is.

Theist: Its not the answer thats important but the mystery/X-factor that makes the problem worth not solving.

Many athiests have the "numbers" to solve the psychology of religion. They solved for X that agnostics say is unknown and theist say is not important to know (aka, God works in mysterious ways), and they find the answer to religious thought. Therefore, they find no reason to put energy into believing that X should stay as X when they already solved the equation.

Some things arent complicated as we make it. I guess thats why people feel "special" in their faith. They found the truth that X need not be solved. They live off the X-factor.

Hardcore athiest see otherwise.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

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Carlita said:
Many athiests have the "numbers" to solve the psychology of religion. They solved for X that agnostics say is unknown and theist say is not important to know (aka, God works in mysterious ways), and they find the answer to religious thought. Therefore, they find no reason to put energy into believing that X should stay as X when they already solved the equation.
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That's quite the claim when we don't even know how we got here. There is still much that does remain unknown. Such things are not simple pre-pre-algebra that you learn at a higher level of basic mathematics, but more like one of the unsolved problems. It doesn't mean we will never solve it or know, it just means that right now we don't know.
Except, because we are human and have the limitations that we have, I do not think we will ever actually know.
 
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Unveiled Artist

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Shadow Wolf said:
That's quite the claim when we don't even know how we got here. There is still much that does remain unknown. Such things are not simple pre-pre-algebra that you learn at a higher level of basic mathematics, but more like one of the unsolved problems. It doesn't mean we will never solve it or know, it just means that right now we don't know.
Except, because we are human and have the limitations that we have, I do not think we will ever actually know.
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True. I dont know about other atheist, but I never got that need to know who the first human was. Solving for X was more realizing the psychology of religion not solving for God. It was like finding the negatives of a film. You have all of these things that proof religion is a cultural and mind thing but people try to strip traditions, customs, etc and find the perfect Zen of religion.

If someone can give me a trait of God without any human attributes, Id like to hear that.

So far, it seems people prooving religion wrong should be looking outside in (look at the white behind the picture) probably find the answers...like a puzzle.
 
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Unveiled Artist

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Revoltingest said:
An incomplete quote?
Apostate!
The mice will be furious.
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"Good Morning," said Deep Thought at last.
"Er..good morning, O Deep Thought" said Loonquawl nervously, "do you have...er, that is..."
"An Answer for you?" interrupted Deep Thought majestically. "Yes, I have."
The two men shivered with expectancy. Their waiting had not been in vain.
"There really is one?" breathed Phouchg.
"There really is one," confirmed Deep Thought.
"To Everything? To the great Question of Life, the Universe and everything?"
"Yes."
Both of the men had been trained for this moment, their lives had been a preparation for it, they had been selected at birth as those who would witness the answer, but even so they found themselves gasping and squirming like excited children.
"And you're ready to give it to us?" urged Loonsuawl.
"I am."
"Now?"
"Now," said Deep Thought.
They both licked their dry lips.
"Though I don't think," added Deep Thought. "that you're going to like it."
"Doesn't matter!" said Phouchg. "We must know it! Now!"
"Now?" inquired Deep Thought.
"Yes! Now..."
"All right," said the computer, and settled into silence again. The two men fidgeted. The tension was unbearable.
"You're really not going to like it," observed Deep Thought.


"Tell us!"
"All right," said Deep Thought. "The Answer to the Great Question..."
"Yes..!"
"Of Life, the Universe and Everything..." said Deep Thought.
"Yes...!"
"Is..." said Deep Thought, and paused.
"Yes...!"
"Is..."
"Yes...!!!...?"

"Forty-two," said Deep Thought, with infinite majesty and calm.
 
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