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Algerian secret services warned France on 6 January

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hi all .
maybe this is interesting :



Algerian secret services warned France of an imminent attack 24 hours before the Paris atrocity, it was claimed last night.

Officials told their French counterparts that a ‘major terrorist operation was in preparation on French territory’ on January 6, according to TV station iTele.

The claim is particularly interesting because the Kouachi brothers behind the massacre at the Charlie Hebdo offices were French nationals of Algerian descent.

They were radicalised by the Buttes-Chaumont jihadist recruitment cell, primarily made up of Franco-Algerians.



from this link :
'Thank God our children are safe': Three terrorists and four hostages dead but - amid the carnage - a moment of heart-wrenching relief  | Daily Mail Online
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That's admirable. I've never doubted that the Algerian government has always been on France's side.
By the way, Algeria and Tunisia are two beautiful countries with great potentialities.
after the decolonization, they were doing a great job in creating a secular and liberal state. But it's the Islamic parties which sowed the hatred towards the French secular and democratic values.
and the process went backwards instead of forwards

The Islamists hate France and its values....that is a fact.
they melt culture, language (Arabic) and religion into a same ideology. This is worrying and disappointing.

I am sorry to say it, but Islamists have destroyed the dream of a united Mediterranean Sea.
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
The attack was going to happen anyway. The only thing the French could have done was increase their security if they had decided the intel was trustworthy. It seems that they took a gamble by not trusting the intel and it did not pay off.
Perhaps the Kouachi brothers were on a watchlist, as it were. However, you cannot, unless one is America, simply throw people into prison because they seem suspicious.
If one's country is afraid of some people (perhaps Algerian Muslims at this time--which the Kouachi brothers were), are you going to start profiling and detaining these people out of fear to then justify it with a false sense of security or would you allow human rights to prevail?

Also, I have not seen this published in other news sources and you quote the Daily Mail so...
And let's be honest: this is all riff-raff. Secondary news. It is ridiculous to speculate in hindsight.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Also, I have not seen this published in other news sources and you quote the Daily Mail so...
And let's be honest: this is all riff-raff. Secondary news. It is ridiculous to speculate in hindsight.

It might be speculation but it's obvious that the Algerian Islamist party has always said that the French model is their enemy. They have never hidden their hatred towards all that is French and secular in Algeria.

and those brothers are not the only Islamists who believe that the French model is the enemy to destroy: there are hundreds of them
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
It might be speculation but it's obvious that the Algerian Islamist party has always said that the French model is their enemy. They have never hidden their hatred towards all that is French and secular in Algeria.

And this asks the question: does this actually have anything to do with the Algerian Secret Service? The DPR will do whatever the National Liberation Front says. The NLF is a so called "Sunni" Islamic party, but as we know, the DPR engages in unlawful arrests, torture, and detention. This goes against "Sunni" Islamist values.
I am 95% sure that is was a whistleblower.

and those brothers are not the only Islamists who believe that the French model is the enemy to destroy: there are hundreds of them

Well Francois Hollande is a pathetic excuse for a country leader. I don't blame them. (not that I would blow people up for it)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Well Francois Hollande is a pathetic excuse for a country leader. I don't blame them. (not that I would blow people up for it)

If we talk about the French inner politics, these Algerian brothers did a big favor to the FN and to Marine Le Pen. You can't even imagine how many people will be following her, after these facts.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Algeria and French share history , France host 4 millions origin Algerians , among them Zinden Zidan, and Nasri, Karim benzima ...etc

When it's about glory football they are French , when it's about crimes they are Muslims and origine Algeria !!!!

so ?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I am sorry to say it, but Islamists have destroyed the dream of a united Mediterranean Sea.
I disagree, the terrorists could not .

Algeria maybe close to finish with terrorists inside Algeria , I remember very well that Algeria since 1992 warned the world and begged UN to act against Terrorism , but nobody cares.

since 2001 ," inspite it's there is serious doubt that 9/11 is planned", the world start war against terrorism .



accautly when we end with terrorists here , it's start in other countries ,Libya , and Syria ,Iraq because some western invades or wrong decision

Algeria disagree and warned about involved Nato and West in Iraq , and Syria and Libya , so who blamed ?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Algeria and French share history , France host 4 millions origin Algerians , among them Zinden Zidan, and Nasri, Karim benzima ...etc

When it's about glory football they are French , when it's about crimes they are Muslims and origine Algeria !!!!

so ?
The attack was going to happen anyway. The only thing the French could have done was increase their security if they had decided the intel was trustworthy. It seems that they took a gamble by not trusting the intel and it did not pay off.
Perhaps the Kouachi brothers were on a watchlist, as it were. However, you cannot, unless one is America, simply throw people into prison because they seem suspicious.
If one's country is afraid of some people (perhaps Algerian Muslims at this time--which the Kouachi brothers were), are you going to start profiling and detaining these people out of fear to then justify it with a false sense of security or would you allow human rights to prevail?

Also, I have not seen this published in other news sources and you quote the Daily Mail so...
And let's be honest: this is all riff-raff. Secondary news. It is ridiculous to speculate in hindsight.

I'm wondering, if the 2 brothers were known to the french government and to the Algerian government as well then how they can do the assault in such an easy way.

Is it hard to (at least) monitor their movements if in a case that they can't arrest them prior to the assault.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I disagree, the terrorists could not .
accautly when we end with terrorists here , it's start in other countries ,Libya , and Syria ,Iraq because some western invades or wrong decision

that dream is broken. In the eighties there was still hope, but not today.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
EDITED sorry i though that i posted the video (in french langauge)

from french Channel , the jouranlist said that Algerian service secrect warned France in 6 Jan :


the jouranlist said : the brothers were trained in Yeman

btw , i heard that USA listed the brothers in black list (they very are known) .
 
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