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All Matter Eventually Decays

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
What would that look like? If you think something other than matter exists then this question doesn’t pertain to you.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
What would that look like? If you think something other than matter exists then this question doesn’t pertain to you.

Matter doesn't decay to nothing, it may become a different form of matter or it may become energy.

The 1st law of thermodynamics.
Energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed in a closed system. (But it can be converted from one to the other)
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Matter doesn't decay to nothing, it may become a different form of matter or it may become energy.

The 1st law of thermodynamics.
Energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed in a closed system. (But it can be converted from one to the other)
Eventually it ends. Atoms end. Photons end. Etc
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Eventually it ends. Atoms end. Photons end. Etc

Nope. In our universe if it continues expanding matter/energy individual atoms and particles will still exist but will be so far from each other that thermal energy will be unusable and heat death of the universe will occur.
Don't worry though it won't happen for over 100 trillion years
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Nope. In our universe if it continues expanding matter/energy individual atoms and particles will still exist but will be so far from each other that thermal energy will be unusable and heat death of the universe will occur.
Don't worry though it won't happen for over 100 trillion years
I’m talking long after heat death. Ultimately atoms decay and end.
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
I know but I got a hunch.


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Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Matter doesn't decay to nothing, it may become a different form of matter or it may become energy.

The 1st law of thermodynamics.
Energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed in a closed system. (But it can be converted from one to the other)
Closed system? Infinite space is a closed system?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Closed system? Infinite space is a closed system?

The universe is a closed system.

I'm not going through the "potentially" infinite space again, that's your hobby horse and has little to do with reality

Can you not see where this idea of yours falls down now?
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
The universe is a closed system.

I'm not going through the "potentially" infinite space again, that's your hobby horse and has little to do with reality

Can you not see where this idea of yours falls down now?
Not really.

I believe a nothing could exist. Just as there’s infinite space, there could also be an absolute nothing. Both concepts require a bit of abstract thought. In order for an absolute nothing to happen all matter would have to decay.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Not really.

I believe a nothing could exist. Just as there’s infinite space, there could also be an absolute nothing. Both concepts require a bit of abstract thought. In order for an absolute nothing to happen all matter would have to decay.

As I've just said in your other thread, you are welcome to your beliefs.

No abstract thought required. Absolute nothings occur all the time in vacuum bubbles.
And I've been through the infinity thing with you, I'm not going there again

How about publishing on arvix and see if you can get any pewe reviews?
 
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