T-Dawg
Self-appointed Lunatic
Hello. A while back I started a thread trying to determine what political group I belonged to, but others made it into a flame war and never actually answered the question, although some said that I was conservative simply because I was anti-abortion or because I was anti-constitutional (which really doesn't make sense). So, seeing that the people viewing this section are supposed to be conservatives (and therefore people who use common sense and won't act like fascists), could any of you take a look at my views and tell me if I'm actually conservative or not?
Abortion
I hate abortion. Not because of the baby's right to life (do you honestly believe that that baby would want to live with an uncaring mother in a country torn by political and financial differences?), but because it's an easy way out for poor choices. If a woman has sex, she should expect to have a baby (unless she has her reproductive organs removed or something). If you happen to have a baby through voluntary sex, you chose to risk having a baby (unless birth control has improved since I've lasted checked, it's not 100% effective). A woman should not be able to get out of an unpleasant situation merely by paying a couple hundred dollars for an abortion. (Women who were raped I would definitely give a free birth procedure and put the baby up for adoption for free, and women who might risk their lives by giving birth should be allowed to prevent the birth) And the "Partial Birth Abortion" thing is horrendous. Really, if you have to make abortions legal, don't encourage procrastination by letting them wait 20 weeks before getting up and removing the baby (recent sources suggest that the woman might not become aware that the pregnancy is dangerous until later, but I'm not sure). And before you ask, YES, THE MAN IS JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PREGNANCY AS THE WOMAN, but he's not the one getting the abortion, and there's no way to find him in the first place unless he admits to having sex with the woman, so why even bring him up? (Apparently I have to say this or people will start going crazy over how "sexist" I am.)
Affirmative Action
I'm disgusted by the fact that liberals want to give special benefits to non-whites simply for being non-white, even though they are genetically better than us. Treating minorities as if they were special is going to cause even more racism - in fact, I've heard rumors that many people voted for Obama simply because of his color (I'm not sure on this).
Death penalty
I wish the death penalty was used more often. Death both gets rid of the criminal and puts him out of his misery, benefiting both parties. I know that if I had a choice between life in prison and death, I would choose death in a heartbeat. America gains nothing by keeping people who will never interact with society or be productive again alive in "prisons."
Economy
I dislike extremist capitalism, but I am ok with people marketing their goods. ("Extremist capitalism" is the term I made up for big business, large corporations, the elite "model" class, the ridiculous distribution of wealth, etc) Institutions like the stock market are just silly. I can't help but notice that ideas of "credit" and the cultural trend to borrow instead of saving up for what you wanted to buy came right before the Depression. I find it completely and utterly stupid that people are willing to borrow money just so they can buy things that they don't need without saving up money (if you need money to start a business for something, I might understand). The loaning system almost always hurts the borrower in the long run and has potential to hurt the loaner (if the borrower can't pay back). Also, I find it ridiculous that CEOs who sit around doing nothing make more money than the people actually working.
Furthermore, the reason American economy is in such bad shape is the inflated value of money. I'm not talking about inflation here, I'm refering to the attitude that money can do anything - Americans seem to think that money can make them happy, that they can do anything if they have the money for it, etc. However, common sense dictates that it is not cash that gets things done, but labor - say you want to build a door. First you need wood - if you throw a wad of cash at a tree, will you get wood? No, a lumberjack cuts down the tree, and then sells the wood to you for money. Now that you have wood, can you make it into a door by throwing money at it? No, it is carved by a carpenter who works for money. And this system of paying for labor works relatively well... until the worker wants more money or doesn't need money. The thing about America is that it's culture worships money - people are told that they should desire to get rich, and more importantly, that they should get rich fast. This has consequently led to people wanting as much money as they can get with as little work possible. This is a problem.
Education - school vouchers
I'm not sure how vouchers work, so I'll stay silent there. However, I believe that the idea of public education in and of itself is unnecessary and maybe even bad, because it devalues the parent's importance in their child's life. It is the parent's responsibility to educate their own children, and should they fail or refuse in doing so, they fail as parents and appropriate measures should be taken (not sure what "appropriate measures" would be, perhaps the confiscation of the child, although I doubt that would help the child's emotional development). If the parents educate the child instead of the public school, it could dramatically lower the distance and tension among families.
the Environment
I don't necessarily like extreme environmentalist policies, but I don't like industrialization much either. I find some environmentalist activities to be utterly ridiculous (ie, I once heard about how some scientists were doing research on some sort of specimens in a river, and their findings could have presented evidence against evolution, but they were forced to shut down because apparently the river had rights), but I commend alternative fuels. I find it completely and utterly stupid, nay, even worse than stupid, that even the government has taken action to cut research on alternative fuels simply to ensure that the oil companies keep making profits (this is another example of Extremist Capitalism). If you think you can get power from the sun, hydrogen, and grass (which I have no doubt that you can), then you should be allowed to research on it and market whatever you get out of it.
Gun control
I can put this real short and simple: If you make it illegal to have guns, then only the criminals will have guns.
Of course, I'm not sure what an ordinary person is going to do with a gun anyways (besides hunting), since what the common man can afford sure isn't going to do much if the government does try to oppress them with force.
Health care
It's a good idea, but the government seems to be pretty inefficient in carrying it out so far. I think people should be able to get the medical help they need, WHEN THEY NEED IT. Unfortunately, it's not doing that very well, and it's currently just sucking up tax dollars from what I've heard. Improvement is needed.
Homeland security
(I don't know what the Patriot Act is, so I won't say anything on it.)
I'm normally a militarist, but right now, we can't really afford to have a large army. Armies cost people for soldiers and materials for weapons. Those people could be working instead of just sitting there with a gun waiting for something to happen or fighting in the middle east (we DON'T need to go on the offensive to prevent terrorist attacks, we just need to improve our defensive security. Chances are, us invading is just making the Arabs angry). And remember how important labor is for the economy.
Immigration
I'm not sure what to say on this. But honestly, why are we preventing people who want to come in from coming in? There'd be plenty of resources for everyone if it weren't for the Upper Class, and if business owners started hiring more workers (thus creating jobs for the immigrants), they would produce more goods, and if there were more workers, more people would be able to buy those goods (however, industrialization might cause overproduction, which can be a problem. Coincidently, industrialization is also bad for the environment).
Religion
I don't give a wooden nickel what the Constitution (or anyone) says if it's stupid! This might sound radical, but we represent all the different political views in our government (no, wait, we don't! But good democracies should, so we'll pretend we're going to fix that too), why not represent all the religious views in another governmental body? And religion should not be treated as a forbidden subject in school (let's assume that we stick with public education for this argument). I find it appalling that teachers are forced to repress their views as they teach; I've talked to teachers privately before, and most of the ones I've had were sincere Christians, but they were literally afraid to talk about religion in public because the higher authorities tell them what they can and can't say. Now, I'm not saying that kids should be forced to learn all the religions, but they should at least offer classes to teach religion as an option, and they should not teach "scientific" views as unquestionable dogma (even though I believe in evolution to some degree, I don't hold it as unquestionable dogma). Religion is a very important part of people's lives, and treating it like it doesn't exist or repressing it is as bad as forcing it upon someone.
Abortion
I hate abortion. Not because of the baby's right to life (do you honestly believe that that baby would want to live with an uncaring mother in a country torn by political and financial differences?), but because it's an easy way out for poor choices. If a woman has sex, she should expect to have a baby (unless she has her reproductive organs removed or something). If you happen to have a baby through voluntary sex, you chose to risk having a baby (unless birth control has improved since I've lasted checked, it's not 100% effective). A woman should not be able to get out of an unpleasant situation merely by paying a couple hundred dollars for an abortion. (Women who were raped I would definitely give a free birth procedure and put the baby up for adoption for free, and women who might risk their lives by giving birth should be allowed to prevent the birth) And the "Partial Birth Abortion" thing is horrendous. Really, if you have to make abortions legal, don't encourage procrastination by letting them wait 20 weeks before getting up and removing the baby (recent sources suggest that the woman might not become aware that the pregnancy is dangerous until later, but I'm not sure). And before you ask, YES, THE MAN IS JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PREGNANCY AS THE WOMAN, but he's not the one getting the abortion, and there's no way to find him in the first place unless he admits to having sex with the woman, so why even bring him up? (Apparently I have to say this or people will start going crazy over how "sexist" I am.)
Affirmative Action
I'm disgusted by the fact that liberals want to give special benefits to non-whites simply for being non-white, even though they are genetically better than us. Treating minorities as if they were special is going to cause even more racism - in fact, I've heard rumors that many people voted for Obama simply because of his color (I'm not sure on this).
Death penalty
I wish the death penalty was used more often. Death both gets rid of the criminal and puts him out of his misery, benefiting both parties. I know that if I had a choice between life in prison and death, I would choose death in a heartbeat. America gains nothing by keeping people who will never interact with society or be productive again alive in "prisons."
Economy
I dislike extremist capitalism, but I am ok with people marketing their goods. ("Extremist capitalism" is the term I made up for big business, large corporations, the elite "model" class, the ridiculous distribution of wealth, etc) Institutions like the stock market are just silly. I can't help but notice that ideas of "credit" and the cultural trend to borrow instead of saving up for what you wanted to buy came right before the Depression. I find it completely and utterly stupid that people are willing to borrow money just so they can buy things that they don't need without saving up money (if you need money to start a business for something, I might understand). The loaning system almost always hurts the borrower in the long run and has potential to hurt the loaner (if the borrower can't pay back). Also, I find it ridiculous that CEOs who sit around doing nothing make more money than the people actually working.
Furthermore, the reason American economy is in such bad shape is the inflated value of money. I'm not talking about inflation here, I'm refering to the attitude that money can do anything - Americans seem to think that money can make them happy, that they can do anything if they have the money for it, etc. However, common sense dictates that it is not cash that gets things done, but labor - say you want to build a door. First you need wood - if you throw a wad of cash at a tree, will you get wood? No, a lumberjack cuts down the tree, and then sells the wood to you for money. Now that you have wood, can you make it into a door by throwing money at it? No, it is carved by a carpenter who works for money. And this system of paying for labor works relatively well... until the worker wants more money or doesn't need money. The thing about America is that it's culture worships money - people are told that they should desire to get rich, and more importantly, that they should get rich fast. This has consequently led to people wanting as much money as they can get with as little work possible. This is a problem.
Education - school vouchers
I'm not sure how vouchers work, so I'll stay silent there. However, I believe that the idea of public education in and of itself is unnecessary and maybe even bad, because it devalues the parent's importance in their child's life. It is the parent's responsibility to educate their own children, and should they fail or refuse in doing so, they fail as parents and appropriate measures should be taken (not sure what "appropriate measures" would be, perhaps the confiscation of the child, although I doubt that would help the child's emotional development). If the parents educate the child instead of the public school, it could dramatically lower the distance and tension among families.
the Environment
I don't necessarily like extreme environmentalist policies, but I don't like industrialization much either. I find some environmentalist activities to be utterly ridiculous (ie, I once heard about how some scientists were doing research on some sort of specimens in a river, and their findings could have presented evidence against evolution, but they were forced to shut down because apparently the river had rights), but I commend alternative fuels. I find it completely and utterly stupid, nay, even worse than stupid, that even the government has taken action to cut research on alternative fuels simply to ensure that the oil companies keep making profits (this is another example of Extremist Capitalism). If you think you can get power from the sun, hydrogen, and grass (which I have no doubt that you can), then you should be allowed to research on it and market whatever you get out of it.
Gun control
I can put this real short and simple: If you make it illegal to have guns, then only the criminals will have guns.
Of course, I'm not sure what an ordinary person is going to do with a gun anyways (besides hunting), since what the common man can afford sure isn't going to do much if the government does try to oppress them with force.
Health care
It's a good idea, but the government seems to be pretty inefficient in carrying it out so far. I think people should be able to get the medical help they need, WHEN THEY NEED IT. Unfortunately, it's not doing that very well, and it's currently just sucking up tax dollars from what I've heard. Improvement is needed.
Homeland security
(I don't know what the Patriot Act is, so I won't say anything on it.)
I'm normally a militarist, but right now, we can't really afford to have a large army. Armies cost people for soldiers and materials for weapons. Those people could be working instead of just sitting there with a gun waiting for something to happen or fighting in the middle east (we DON'T need to go on the offensive to prevent terrorist attacks, we just need to improve our defensive security. Chances are, us invading is just making the Arabs angry). And remember how important labor is for the economy.
Immigration
I'm not sure what to say on this. But honestly, why are we preventing people who want to come in from coming in? There'd be plenty of resources for everyone if it weren't for the Upper Class, and if business owners started hiring more workers (thus creating jobs for the immigrants), they would produce more goods, and if there were more workers, more people would be able to buy those goods (however, industrialization might cause overproduction, which can be a problem. Coincidently, industrialization is also bad for the environment).
Religion
I don't give a wooden nickel what the Constitution (or anyone) says if it's stupid! This might sound radical, but we represent all the different political views in our government (no, wait, we don't! But good democracies should, so we'll pretend we're going to fix that too), why not represent all the religious views in another governmental body? And religion should not be treated as a forbidden subject in school (let's assume that we stick with public education for this argument). I find it appalling that teachers are forced to repress their views as they teach; I've talked to teachers privately before, and most of the ones I've had were sincere Christians, but they were literally afraid to talk about religion in public because the higher authorities tell them what they can and can't say. Now, I'm not saying that kids should be forced to learn all the religions, but they should at least offer classes to teach religion as an option, and they should not teach "scientific" views as unquestionable dogma (even though I believe in evolution to some degree, I don't hold it as unquestionable dogma). Religion is a very important part of people's lives, and treating it like it doesn't exist or repressing it is as bad as forcing it upon someone.
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everyone to me is entitled to their views! (and should be respected for them too within reason i.e. brutally murdering someone I don't agree with or respect)
