Am I wrong? The statue of Jesus ruins Brazil

[sovietchild]

By proclaiming that Jesus is God can be considered as defamation, because Jesus himself didn't call himself God and didn't consider himself God, and none of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God.

Idea like this can ruin the society, it can spoil the society and corrupt the society, within. If the idea is corrupt, then how can it not corrupt the nation? The statue of Jesus represents Brazil. It is the face of Brazil. What kind of face is it? Is it a legitimate face or a corrupt face? Well, Brazil is known for corruption, anyways. One of the most criminal societies out there. Yes, we can blame it on the hot weather and low income, but if this is a corrupt idea then it will only boil the corruption, within. It will make the hot society hotter, and the low income lower.

I believe if Brazil were to take down the statue, things will only get better from there.

 

[Flame]

I HIGHLY doubt that a statue is the root of Brazil's problems.

 

[Kirran]

I HIGHLY doubt that a statue is the root of Brazil's problems.

You blame the hot weather too, huh?

 

[Flame]

You blame the hot weather too, huh?

Of course! I get moody also when its 100+ degrees here.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Yes, you are wrong.

 

[sovietchild]

I HIGHLY doubt that a statue is the root of Brazil's problems.

Yes, it might not be the direct problem. But, how can it not be the in-direct problem? If this idea that Jesus is God is a lie, then it will breed through entire nation. If the foundation is a lie, then the bigger the nation grows, the more likely it will collapse.

 

[Kirran]

It can be said to be a defamation from an Islamic perspective, maybe. That's as far as we can really go.

 

[Kirran]

Yes, it might not be the direct problem. But, how can it not be the in-direct problem? If this idea that Jesus is God is a lie, then it will breed through entire nation. If the foundation is a lie, then the bigger the nation grows, the more likely it will collapse.

If all non-Islamic beliefs are a lie, and having such "lies" endemic in society is problematic, why is it that so many non-Islamic countries are so prosperous?

 

[sovietchild]

It can be said to be a defamation from an Islamic perspective, maybe. That's as far as we can really go.

How so? Did Jesus call himself God? Did any of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God?

 

[Kirran]

How so? Did Jesus call himself God? Did any of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God?

That's a religious discussion, not one which relates to the social status of Brazil and how statues might impact it.

For a Christian, Jesus is God, for a Muslim, Jesus is not God.

 

[sovietchild]

That's a religious discussion, not one which relates to the social status of Brazil and how statues might impact it.

For a Christian, Jesus is God, for a Muslim, Jesus is not God.

And, what about the rest? Only about 20% of population believes that he is God. Right?

 

[Kirran]

And, what about the rest? Only about 20% of population believes that he is God. Right?

The population of Brazil? Or of the world?

The world is around 30-35% Christian.

And in any case, this is tangential, the point is: If all non-Islamic beliefs are a lie, and having such "lies" endemic in society is problematic, why is it that so many non-Islamic countries are so prosperous?

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

And, what about the rest? Only about 20% of population believes that he is God. Right?

87% of Brazil is Christian.

 

[Nietzsche]

Yes, it might not be the direct problem. But, how can it not be the in-direct problem? If this idea that Jesus is God is a lie, then it will breed through entire nation. If the foundation is a lie, then the bigger the nation grows, the more likely it will collapse.

I'm curious as to where you'd ascribe Pakistan's, Afghanistan's, Yemen's..

Let's just go all-in, the entirety of the non-European(not counting Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, Turkey) Muslim world. Where do their problems come from?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

By proclaiming that Jesus is God can be considered as defamation, because Jesus himself didn't call himself God and didn't consider himself God, and none of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God.

Idea like this can ruin the society, it can spoil the society and corrupt the society, within. If the idea is corrupt, then how can it not corrupt the nation? The statue of Jesus represents Brazil. It is the face of Brazil. What kind of face is it? Is it a legitimate face or a corrupt face? Well, Brazil is known for corruption, anyways. One of the most criminal societies out there. Yes, we can blame it on the hot weather and low income, but if this is a corrupt idea then it will only boil the corruption, within. It will make the hot society hotter, and the low income lower.

I believe if Brazil were to take down the statue, things will only get better from there.

For a member of a religion which teaches that carved images hold no power whatsoever, you seem awfully keen to ascribe enough power to this statue that it can cause problems for a whole country.

P.S. You are most definitely wrong.

 

[sovietchild]

I'm curious as to where you'd ascribe Pakistan's, Afghanistan's, Yemen's..

Let's just go all-in, the entirety of the non-European(not counting Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, Turkey) Muslim world. Where do their problems come from?

Is Turkey as criminal as Brazil and the regional neighbors or something?

........you seem awfully keen to ascribe enough power to this statue that it can cause problems for a whole country.

How can it not?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Yes, it might not be the direct problem. But, how can it not be the in-direct problem?

How can it not?

Because statues and other forms of 'idols', according to Islam, have no power so worshipping them or ascribing deeds (good or bad) to them is pointless (except the Kaaba, obviously).

 

[sovietchild]

The population of Brazil? Or of the world?

The world is around 30-35% Christian.

And in any case, this is tangential, the point is: If all non-Islamic beliefs are a lie, and having such "lies" endemic in society is problematic, why is it that so many non-Islamic countries are so prosperous?

So about 70% of people don't believe that is he God, Right? And, you are probably one of them.

 

[Kirran]

So about 70% of people don't believe that is he God, Right? And, you are probably one of them.

If all non-Islamic beliefs are a lie, and having such "lies" endemic in society is problematic, why is it that so many non-Islamic countries are so prosperous?

And yeah, just like about 80% of people believe Muhammad wasn't a Messenger of God, where does that get us?

I'm not gonna get into my own views on Jesus here. Irrelevant to the topic.

 

[Nakosis]

By proclaiming that Jesus is God can be considered as defamation, because Jesus himself didn't call himself God and didn't consider himself God, and none of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God.

Idea like this can ruin the society, it can spoil the society and corrupt the society, within. If the idea is corrupt, then how can it not corrupt the nation? The statue of Jesus represents Brazil. It is the face of Brazil. What kind of face is it? Is it a legitimate face or a corrupt face? Well, Brazil is known for corruption, anyways. One of the most criminal societies out there. Yes, we can blame it on the hot weather and low income, but if this is a corrupt idea then it will only boil the corruption, within. It will make the hot society hotter, and the low income lower.

I believe if Brazil were to take down the statue, things will only get better from there.

Yes and put up a statue of Donald Trump.

Make Brazil Great Again!