America is "Pro-Life." Are You?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That's what I'm hearing on the news these days -- "America is Pro-Life." I'm trying to figure out what that means. So, I've thought of a few questions that might help to clarify -- or at least help us all understand whether we, ourselves, are "pro-life," whether the nation is or not. So here are some things to ask yourself:

Do you love the fetus in somebody else's womb (that will have no impact on your life), does that mean that you are pro-life? What if it were (hugely inconveniently!) in your womb? Or, through rape, your daughters? Do you love that fetus just as much, and can't wait for it to be born?

If getting rid of ubiquitous guns can be shown to save lives, are you still pro-life?

If saving the lives of refugees from war, famine or other catastrophe means letting them into your country and helping them go forward, are you still pro-life?

When you call for the death penalty, are you still pro-life?

If you think that private health care profits mean that public medicare and medicaid must be restricted, so as not to harm the bottom lines of those private firms, are you still pro-life?

If your lack of care for our planet and its environment will shorten -- or end -- the lives of future generations, are you still pro-life?

If caring for the impoverished, indigent or those incapable of caring for themselves is too expensive for you to vote your taxes for, are you still pro-life?

Do you thank that life is about more than just being born? Then you just might be pro-life.

I am. Are you?

 

[Stevicus]

That's what I'm hearing on the news these days -- "America is Pro-Life." I'm trying to figure out what that means. So, I've thought of a few questions that might help to clarify -- or at least help us all understand whether we, ourselves, are "pro-life," whether the nation is or not. So here are some things to ask yourself:

Do you love the fetus in somebody else's womb (that will have no impact on your life), does that mean that you are pro-life? What if it were (hugely inconveniently!) in your womb? Or, through rape, your daughters? Do you love that fetus just as much, and can't wait for it to be born?

If getting rid of ubiquitous guns can be shown to save lives, are you still pro-life?

If saving the lives of refugees from war, famine or other catastrophe means letting them into your country and helping them go forward, are you still pro-life?

When you call for the death penalty, are you still pro-life?

If you think that private health care profits mean that public medicare and medicaid must be restricted, so as not to harm the bottom lines of those private firms, are you still pro-life?

If your lack of care for our planet and its environment will shorten -- or end -- the lives of future generations, are you still pro-life?

If caring for the impoverished, indigent or those incapable of caring for themselves is too expensive for you to vote your taxes for, are you still pro-life?

Do you thank that life is about more than just being born? Then you just might be pro-life.

I am. Are you?

I'm reminded of George Carlin's words on this subject:

George Carlin : These people call themselves "right to lifers." Don't you love that phrase? And don't you love the way these kind of people pervert the English language? You realize that most of the right-to-lifers are in favor of the DEATH penalty? And they support the South American DEATH squads. And they're against gun control and they're against nuclear weapons control. When they say "right to life," they're talking about THEIR right to decide which people should live or die.

 

[MikeF]

That's what I'm hearing on the news these days -- "America is Pro-Life." I'm trying to figure out what that means. So, I've thought of a few questions that might help to clarify -- or at least help us all understand whether we, ourselves, are "pro-life," whether the nation is or not. So here are some things to ask yourself:

Do you love the fetus in somebody else's womb (that will have no impact on your life), does that mean that you are pro-life? What if it were (hugely inconveniently!) in your womb? Or, through rape, your daughters? Do you love that fetus just as much, and can't wait for it to be born?

If getting rid of ubiquitous guns can be shown to save lives, are you still pro-life?

If saving the lives of refugees from war, famine or other catastrophe means letting them into your country and helping them go forward, are you still pro-life?

When you call for the death penalty, are you still pro-life?

If you think that private health care profits mean that public medicare and medicaid must be restricted, so as not to harm the bottom lines of those private firms, are you still pro-life?

If your lack of care for our planet and its environment will shorten -- or end -- the lives of future generations, are you still pro-life?

If caring for the impoverished, indigent or those incapable of caring for themselves is too expensive for you to vote your taxes for, are you still pro-life?

Do you thank that life is about more than just being born? Then you just might be pro-life.

I am. Are you?

All this talk related to the abortion issue has gotten me thinking along these same lines. For me, I have a lot of trouble reconciling the values I hear expressed by Christians in particular, and the strong participation in the military by Christians as well as the acceptance if not out-right condoning of war or military action by Christians. It seems the whole war/military endeavor is anathema to the teachings of Jesus as relayed in the Christian Bible. I don't get it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

All this talk related to the abortion issue has gotten me thinking along these same lines. For me, I have a lot of trouble reconciling the values I hear expressed by Christians in particular, and the strong participation in the military by Christians as well as the acceptance if not out-right condoning of war or military action by Christians. It seems the whole war/military endeavor is anathema to the teachings of Jesus as relayed in the Christian Bible. I don't get it.

I find it strange Christians are not pro choice in light their purported God is actually by far, in context of their beliefs, is the biggest abortion provider around.

 

[Kenny]

That's what I'm hearing on the news these days -- "America is Pro-Life." I'm trying to figure out what that means. So, I've thought of a few questions that might help to clarify -- or at least help us all understand whether we, ourselves, are "pro-life," whether the nation is or not. So here are some things to ask yourself:

Do you love the fetus in somebody else's womb (that will have no impact on your life), does that mean that you are pro-life? What if it were (hugely inconveniently!) in your womb? Or, through rape, your daughters? Do you love that fetus just as much, and can't wait for it to be born?

I'm not sure just what you are driving at here and there were too many questions to deal with so I'll start with the first.

I would say I am pro-live vs pro-abortion. A woman with child that decides to abort has not more effect on my life than someone starving to death. But I would be against both.

Ultimately, I think it does affect us in as much as we become calloused to the value of life if we look at it as inconsequential..

"Inconvenience" is too subjective IMV. What does that mean? I find it inconvenient to have to fight traffic. I found it inconvenient to have to take the lunch, their books, their homework that my children forgot to take to their school. I found it inconvenient to have to wake up in 3 in the morning on my watch to put the child back to sleep so that my wife could sleep.

But it doesn't matter.

As far as a baby that arrives sin the womb when raped. I haven't had to address that so let me look at others who have:

1. Eartha Kitt – Eartha Kitt was conceived by rape. The singer was born in 1927 on a cotton plantation in South Carolina and raised by a woman called Anna Mae, who she believed was her mother, but later found out that her father was the white son of the plantation owner. Her mother married and her new husband shunned Kitt due to her pale complexion so she spent her childhood living with a different family.

2. Zahara Jolie-Pitt – Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s adopted daughter Zahara was conceived by rape. Zahara’s birth mother, Mentwabe Dawit, told Reuter’s about her horrifying experience. As she walked home in the darkness a man approached. “He pulled a dagger, put one hand on my mouth, so that I could not scream. He then raped me and disappeared.” She was 24 at the time and decided to keep the assault a secret, fearing the consequences in her town. At six-months-old Zahara was adopted by Jolie from an orphanage in Ethiopia in 2005, then later Pitt followed in the adoption process.

3. Jesse Jackson – Jesse Jackson was conceived out of statutory rape. The civil rights activist was born in South Carolina to Helen Burns, a 16-year-old high school student, and her 33-year-old married neighbor and father, Noah Robinson, a former pro boxer and prominent figure in the black community. She was pressured to abort but decided to keep her baby. A year after her son’s birth, Burns married Charles Henry Jackson, a post office maintenance worker who adopted Jackson.

10 Celebrities Who Were Conceived By Rape or Bore a Child Out of Rape - Tinseltown Mom

I'm sure there are to many to count but apparently all that lived and the mothers that carried their children in the womb thought they could and did .

 

[MikeF]

I'm not sure just what you are driving at here and there were too many questions to deal with so I'll start with the first.

I would say I am pro-live vs pro-abortion. A woman with child that decides to abort has not more effect on my life than someone starving to death. But I would be against both.

Ultimately, I think it does affect us in as much as we become calloused to the value of life if we look at it as inconsequential..

"Inconvenience" is too subjective IMV. What does that mean? I find it inconvenient to have to fight traffic. I found it inconvenient to have to take the lunch, their books, their homework that my children forgot to take to their school. I found it inconvenient to have to wake up in 3 in the morning on my watch to put the child back to sleep so that my wife could sleep.

But it doesn't matter.

As far as a baby that arrives sin the womb when raped. I haven't had to address that so let me look at others who have:

1. Eartha Kitt – Eartha Kitt was conceived by rape. The singer was born in 1927 on a cotton plantation in South Carolina and raised by a woman called Anna Mae, who she believed was her mother, but later found out that her father was the white son of the plantation owner. Her mother married and her new husband shunned Kitt due to her pale complexion so she spent her childhood living with a different family.

2. Zahara Jolie-Pitt – Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s adopted daughter Zahara was conceived by rape. Zahara’s birth mother, Mentwabe Dawit, told Reuter’s about her horrifying experience. As she walked home in the darkness a man approached. “He pulled a dagger, put one hand on my mouth, so that I could not scream. He then raped me and disappeared.” She was 24 at the time and decided to keep the assault a secret, fearing the consequences in her town. At six-months-old Zahara was adopted by Jolie from an orphanage in Ethiopia in 2005, then later Pitt followed in the adoption process.

3. Jesse Jackson – Jesse Jackson was conceived out of statutory rape. The civil rights activist was born in South Carolina to Helen Burns, a 16-year-old high school student, and her 33-year-old married neighbor and father, Noah Robinson, a former pro boxer and prominent figure in the black community. She was pressured to abort but decided to keep her baby. A year after her son’s birth, Burns married Charles Henry Jackson, a post office maintenance worker who adopted Jackson.

10 Celebrities Who Were Conceived By Rape or Bore a Child Out of Rape - Tinseltown Mom

I'm sure there are to many to count but apparently all that lived and the mothers that carried their children in the womb thought they could and did .

Listing those who were conceived in rape has little value. It is an emotional appeal. Should we mourn the lost potential child every time a woman has her period? Please. The people you list were born, just as many others have been. Some have good lives, some fair, some terrible. There are lots of reasons in addition to abortion that potential babies are not born. Every potential child does not, and should not, need to be born. We would destroy the earth if that were to happen. A teenage mistake or a failure of birth control or an incidence of rape should in no way require a child to be born, especially if it will have a negative impact on the potential mother.

Where is your statistic for young mothers who never finish school due to pregnancy? Where is your statistic for single mothers trapped in poverty? How might things have been better for these women if children came later in life?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Do you thank that life is about more than just being born? Then you just might be pro-life.

So I assume you oppose abortion?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I'm not sure just what you are driving at here and there were too many questions to deal with so I'll start with the first.

I would say I am pro-live vs pro-abortion. A woman with child that decides to abort has not more effect on my life than someone starving to death. But I would be against both.

Ultimately, I think it does affect us in as much as we become calloused to the value of life if we look at it as inconsequential..

"Inconvenience" is too subjective IMV. What does that mean? I find it inconvenient to have to fight traffic. I found it inconvenient to have to take the lunch, their books, their homework that my children forgot to take to their school. I found it inconvenient to have to wake up in 3 in the morning on my watch to put the child back to sleep so that my wife could sleep.

But it doesn't matter.

As far as a baby that arrives sin the womb when raped. I haven't had to address that so let me look at others who have:

1. Eartha Kitt – Eartha Kitt was conceived by rape. The singer was born in 1927 on a cotton plantation in South Carolina and raised by a woman called Anna Mae, who she believed was her mother, but later found out that her father was the white son of the plantation owner. Her mother married and her new husband shunned Kitt due to her pale complexion so she spent her childhood living with a different family.

2. Zahara Jolie-Pitt – Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s adopted daughter Zahara was conceived by rape. Zahara’s birth mother, Mentwabe Dawit, told Reuter’s about her horrifying experience. As she walked home in the darkness a man approached. “He pulled a dagger, put one hand on my mouth, so that I could not scream. He then raped me and disappeared.” She was 24 at the time and decided to keep the assault a secret, fearing the consequences in her town. At six-months-old Zahara was adopted by Jolie from an orphanage in Ethiopia in 2005, then later Pitt followed in the adoption process.

3. Jesse Jackson – Jesse Jackson was conceived out of statutory rape. The civil rights activist was born in South Carolina to Helen Burns, a 16-year-old high school student, and her 33-year-old married neighbor and father, Noah Robinson, a former pro boxer and prominent figure in the black community. She was pressured to abort but decided to keep her baby. A year after her son’s birth, Burns married Charles Henry Jackson, a post office maintenance worker who adopted Jackson.

10 Celebrities Who Were Conceived By Rape or Bore a Child Out of Rape - Tinseltown Mom

I'm sure there are to many to count but apparently all that lived and the mothers that carried their children in the womb thought they could and did .

One quick question, Ken. Do you support abortion in the case of an ectopic pregnancy (about 1 in 50), knowing that without being able to abort it is extremely likely to kill the mother and child?

A simple yes or no answer will suffice.

 

[robocop (actually)]

That's what I'm hearing on the news these days -- "America is Pro-Life." I'm trying to figure out what that means. So, I've thought of a few questions that might help to clarify -- or at least help us all understand whether we, ourselves, are "pro-life," whether the nation is or not. So here are some things to ask yourself:

Do you love the fetus in somebody else's womb (that will have no impact on your life), does that mean that you are pro-life? What if it were (hugely inconveniently!) in your womb? Or, through rape, your daughters? Do you love that fetus just as much, and can't wait for it to be born?

If getting rid of ubiquitous guns can be shown to save lives, are you still pro-life?

If saving the lives of refugees from war, famine or other catastrophe means letting them into your country and helping them go forward, are you still pro-life?

When you call for the death penalty, are you still pro-life?

If you think that private health care profits mean that public medicare and medicaid must be restricted, so as not to harm the bottom lines of those private firms, are you still pro-life?

If your lack of care for our planet and its environment will shorten -- or end -- the lives of future generations, are you still pro-life?

If caring for the impoverished, indigent or those incapable of caring for themselves is too expensive for you to vote your taxes for, are you still pro-life?

Do you thank that life is about more than just being born? Then you just might be pro-life.

I am. Are you?

Pro-life means opposing abortion and euthanasia.

Oppose means disapprove of and attempt to prevent, especially by argument.

That is what I am.

 

[The Hammer]

I'm not sure just what you are driving at here and there were too many questions to deal with so I'll start with the first.

I would say I am pro-live vs pro-abortion. A woman with child that decides to abort has not more effect on my life than someone starving to death. But I would be against both.

Ultimately, I think it does affect us in as much as we become calloused to the value of life if we look at it as inconsequential..

"Inconvenience" is too subjective IMV. What does that mean? I find it inconvenient to have to fight traffic. I found it inconvenient to have to take the lunch, their books, their homework that my children forgot to take to their school. I found it inconvenient to have to wake up in 3 in the morning on my watch to put the child back to sleep so that my wife could sleep.

But it doesn't matter.

As far as a baby that arrives sin the womb when raped. I haven't had to address that so let me look at others who have:

1. Eartha Kitt – Eartha Kitt was conceived by rape. The singer was born in 1927 on a cotton plantation in South Carolina and raised by a woman called Anna Mae, who she believed was her mother, but later found out that her father was the white son of the plantation owner. Her mother married and her new husband shunned Kitt due to her pale complexion so she spent her childhood living with a different family.

2. Zahara Jolie-Pitt – Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s adopted daughter Zahara was conceived by rape. Zahara’s birth mother, Mentwabe Dawit, told Reuter’s about her horrifying experience. As she walked home in the darkness a man approached. “He pulled a dagger, put one hand on my mouth, so that I could not scream. He then raped me and disappeared.” She was 24 at the time and decided to keep the assault a secret, fearing the consequences in her town. At six-months-old Zahara was adopted by Jolie from an orphanage in Ethiopia in 2005, then later Pitt followed in the adoption process.

3. Jesse Jackson – Jesse Jackson was conceived out of statutory rape. The civil rights activist was born in South Carolina to Helen Burns, a 16-year-old high school student, and her 33-year-old married neighbor and father, Noah Robinson, a former pro boxer and prominent figure in the black community. She was pressured to abort but decided to keep her baby. A year after her son’s birth, Burns married Charles Henry Jackson, a post office maintenance worker who adopted Jackson.

10 Celebrities Who Were Conceived By Rape or Bore a Child Out of Rape - Tinseltown Mom

I'm sure there are to many to count but apparently all that lived and the mothers that carried their children in the womb thought they could and did .

And... I should have been aborted.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's what I'm hearing on the news these days -- "America is Pro-Life." I'm trying to figure out what that means. So, I've thought of a few questions that might help to clarify -- or at least help us all understand whether we, ourselves, are "pro-life," whether the nation is or not. So here are some things to ask yourself:

Do you love the fetus in somebody else's womb (that will have no impact on your life), does that mean that you are pro-life? What if it were (hugely inconveniently!) in your womb? Or, through rape, your daughters? Do you love that fetus just as much, and can't wait for it to be born?

If getting rid of ubiquitous guns can be shown to save lives, are you still pro-life?

If saving the lives of refugees from war, famine or other catastrophe means letting them into your country and helping them go forward, are you still pro-life?

When you call for the death penalty, are you still pro-life?

If you think that private health care profits mean that public medicare and medicaid must be restricted, so as not to harm the bottom lines of those private firms, are you still pro-life?

If your lack of care for our planet and its environment will shorten -- or end -- the lives of future generations, are you still pro-life?

If caring for the impoverished, indigent or those incapable of caring for themselves is too expensive for you to vote your taxes for, are you still pro-life?

Do you thank that life is about more than just being born? Then you just might be pro-life.

I am. Are you?

I'm pro-abortion, pro-gun, pro-sex work, pro-liberty,
pro-free speech, & anti-draft. This is not an exhaustive list.

 

[SomeRandom]

That's what I'm hearing on the news these days -- "America is Pro-Life." I'm trying to figure out what that means. So, I've thought of a few questions that might help to clarify -- or at least help us all understand whether we, ourselves, are "pro-life," whether the nation is or not. So here are some things to ask yourself:

Do you love the fetus in somebody else's womb (that will have no impact on your life), does that mean that you are pro-life? What if it were (hugely inconveniently!) in your womb? Or, through rape, your daughters? Do you love that fetus just as much, and can't wait for it to be born?

If getting rid of ubiquitous guns can be shown to save lives, are you still pro-life?

If saving the lives of refugees from war, famine or other catastrophe means letting them into your country and helping them go forward, are you still pro-life?

When you call for the death penalty, are you still pro-life?

If you think that private health care profits mean that public medicare and medicaid must be restricted, so as not to harm the bottom lines of those private firms, are you still pro-life?

If your lack of care for our planet and its environment will shorten -- or end -- the lives of future generations, are you still pro-life?

If caring for the impoverished, indigent or those incapable of caring for themselves is too expensive for you to vote your taxes for, are you still pro-life?

Do you thank that life is about more than just being born? Then you just might be pro-life.

I am. Are you?

I think I’m internally consistent. (At least I hope.)
Whether that is “pro life” or not, is of no concern to me.
I am a pragmatist at heart. I can accept reality will never be ideal, will never live up to my ideal and all I can do is try to minimise suffering.
So I am pro choice, even though I find the concept of abortion to be immoral (elective only, medical or traumatic circumstances cancel that out, imv.)
I find it unethical to force another person to carry through with a pregnancy against their will.
I find it unethical to force a person to live through debilitating illness. If there is no quality of life and there is no possible treatment, that is only prolonging suffering needlessly. Euthanasia is a mercy and lets a person die with dignity and (hopefully) painlessly. Surrounded by if not loved ones, at least someone to offer comfort.
I am pro vaccine mandates (with the understanding that a person may elect out of it, just has to face the social consequences.)
Because it is a matter of overall public safety.
I am against the death penalty out of moral concerns. And the fact that evidence can point to the wrong conclusion or even exonerate a person after the fact. Which is hard to undo.
Though if the person is absolutely proven guilty without even a hint of doubt and the family/friends of the victim wish to see that occur, then I will not oppose it. Though I don’t think it’s legal in my country anyway. So it’s a bit moot.

We have universal healthcare and I support measures to help the poor and children.
My mother is a legal immigrant and I support offering refuge, within reason. And people awaiting legal status should be treated well and humanely.

 

[F1fan]

Listing those who were conceived in rape has little value. It is an emotional appeal. Should we mourn the lost potential child every time a woman has her period? Please. The people you list were born, just as many others have been. Some have good lives, some fair, some terrible. There are lots of reasons in addition to abortion that potential babies are not born. Every potential child does not, and should not, need to be born. We would destroy the earth if that were to happen. A teenage mistake or a failure of birth control or an incidence of rape should in no way require a child to be born, especially if it will have a negative impact on the potential mother.

Where is your statistic for young mothers who never finish school due to pregnancy? Where is your statistic for single mothers trapped in poverty? How might things have been better for these women if children came later in life?

You point out an important thing that I often ask anti-abortion folks, and that is how far they will take personal accountability for the thousands of children who end up getting born, and many with genetic defects, developmental problems, all which require a great deal of time, often 24 hour care until death, and also the healthcare costs. Not a single anti-abortion person has answered. This is the point. We rely on stability of society, and it is expensive to have kids. With more unwanted children born, many with defects, who will do the care and pay for it?

I see a huge burden on society with unwanted children if the Christian extremists ban abortion. It's a consequence they ignore because they have no solutions.

 

[Aštra’el]

I have never described myself as “pro-life”.

 

[Valjean]

Pro-life means opposing abortion and euthanasia.

Oppose means disapprove of and attempt to prevent, especially by argument.

That is what I am.

Why are these pro-life? Abortion is not killing a sentient person. It's killing only a potential.
Euthanasia is usually putting something out of its misery; it's ending the suffering of someone whose quality of life has dipped into the negative, and become a torment.

Is it life itself you value, or the pleasure of living?
Would you maintain a brain dead but living body, year after year, impoverishing the family, just to maintain life?

How about removing a cancerous kidney? The kidney's alive, after all, and in the same unconscious state as a fœtus.

Are you an anti-war pacifist?

Are you a vegetarian? A chicken is just as alive as you are; or as a fœtus is -- though considerably more sentient and self-aware.

So what qualities make this "life" you value so much, so valuable?

 

[Suave]

That's what I'm hearing on the news these days -- "America is Pro-Life." I'm trying to figure out what that means. So, I've thought of a few questions that might help to clarify -- or at least help us all understand whether we, ourselves, are "pro-life," whether the nation is or not. So here are some things to ask yourself:

Do you love the fetus in somebody else's womb (that will have no impact on your life), does that mean that you are pro-life? What if it were (hugely inconveniently!) in your womb? Or, through rape, your daughters? Do you love that fetus just as much, and can't wait for it to be born?

If getting rid of ubiquitous guns can be shown to save lives, are you still pro-life?

If saving the lives of refugees from war, famine or other catastrophe means letting them into your country and helping them go forward, are you still pro-life?

When you call for the death penalty, are you still pro-life?

If you think that private health care profits mean that public medicare and medicaid must be restricted, so as not to harm the bottom lines of those private firms, are you still pro-life?

If your lack of care for our planet and its environment will shorten -- or end -- the lives of future generations, are you still pro-life?

If caring for the impoverished, indigent or those incapable of caring for themselves is too expensive for you to vote your taxes for, are you still pro-life?

Do you thank that life is about more than just being born? Then you just might be pro-life.

I am. Are you?

Most of us Americans realize fetuses are not people, because embryos have never experienced human consciousness. Therefore, we respect the reproductive rights of women who when impregnated are allowed the choice of carrying their prospective offspring to term or aborting their fetal matter,

Many Americans are very environmentally friendly. We drive electric cars, carbonless nuclear power plants generate the electricity consumed by us, and we recycle our disposable waste. There are practically no carbon foot prints around us.

Most Americans favor gun control measures prohibiting civilians from possessing high capacity magazines enabling semi- automatic firearms to be loaded with more rounds of ammo than necessary for hunting or self defense,

Many Americans consider most anybody deserving of a second chance at life outside of prison. All states of the United States have practically abolished capital punishment against anybody who is a non serial killer. I'd like criminal justice reform in each state to mostly emulate the Norwegian criminal justice system where nobody can be sentence to more than 21 years imprisonment. Also, I favor correctional detainment facility staff being trained to treat everybody with dignity and respect. I would like prison guards be mostly unarmed as well as often socially interacting with inmates during meals or recreational activities. Job training and higher learning courses for inmates result in less recidivism,

I am indeed a pro-lifer.

 

[Valjean]

You point out an important thing that I often ask anti-abortion folks, and that is how far they will take personal accountability for the thousands of children who end up getting born, and many with genetic defects, developmental problems, all which require a great deal of time, often 24 hour care until death, and also the healthcare costs. Not a single anti-abortion person has answered. This is the point. We rely on stability of society, and it is expensive to have kids. With more unwanted children born, many with defects, who will do the care and pay for it?

I see a huge burden on society with unwanted children if the Christian extremists ban abortion. It's a consequence they ignore because they have no solutions.

Not just the children, but the thousands of mothers thrown into poverty and forced to abandon their dreams of a future by the sudden burden of an unwanted child. Many will spend their lives on public assistance, themselves becoming a burden on taxpayers.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I find it strange Christians are not pro choice in light their purported God is actually by far, in context of their beliefs, is the biggest abortion provider around.

If everything runs by his design and intention, there is no possible way for us mere humans to out abort god because he already set things up to mostly auto-abort. And the 10th Plague? Commanding the Hebrews to rip the unborn from the womb? Ritual of Bitter waters? Jehovah is the undisputed champ of performing abortions.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Pro-life means opposing abortion and euthanasia.

That's just pro-needless suffering.

 

[We Never Know]

I'm reminded of George Carlin's words on this subject:

George Carlin : These people call themselves "right to lifers." Don't you love that phrase? And don't you love the way these kind of people pervert the English language? You realize that most of the right-to-lifers are in favor of the DEATH penalty? And they support the South American DEATH squads. And they're against gun control and they're against nuclear weapons control. When they say "right to life," they're talking about THEIR right to decide which people should live or die.

Kind of like "every person that supports abortion has already been born...
Ronald Reagan


The next Einstein or someone who could have cured cancer, diabetes, or helped greatly with global warming could have been aborted.
We will never know.