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American Library Association reports record requests for book bans.

What is the right really gunning for?


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fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Assuming only for the sake of argument that this were happening. That would simply mean the publicly funded library chooses not to have some particular book, for whatever reason. That still isn't "banning". Those that want the materials available to others are free to set up a private lending library of their own and get the materials. Ergo, the books aren't banned.

Public libraries don't have unlimited funds. Since they don't, they must choose which books to get. That isn't "banning".
So according to your reasoning, if these books were provided to the library for free they would be on the shelves. Is that correct?

Because if that is the case, I am sure we could start a gofundme to get The Handmaid’s Tale back on the shelves.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
Sophistry based on the article definitions for "censorship", "targeted", etc. Nonsense. There is a world of difference between a community not providing funding for every book under the sun and "banning".

Libraries are important for populations that may not have internet access; it is indeed a ban for them. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not a ban.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Book Challenges Nearly Doubled From 2021

CHICAGO — The American Library Association (ALA) today released new data documenting* 1,269 demands to censor library books and resources in 2022, the highest number of attempted book bans since ALA began compiling data about censorship in libraries more than 20 years ago. The unparalleled number of reported book challenges in 2022 nearly doubles the 729 challenges reported in 2021.

A record 2,571 unique titles were targeted for censorship, a 38% increase from the 1,858 unique titles targeted for censorship in 2021. Of those titles, the vast majority were written by or about members of the LGBTQIA+ community and people of color.

(Purple highlighting is mine.)


Is everybody still sure that America really, really believes in freedom of expression?

Is everybody still sure that the right is not seriously aiming at seriously rolling back the freedoms and rights gained by LGBTQIA+ and people of color?
Hmm, and they say that cancel culture is only on the left...
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I picked a book at random from one of those lists. The book is "Final Takedown". It is available online in every state in the Union. It isn't "banned" at all.
Nice diversionary tactic. I've no doubt you are quite aware that many, many people get their reading material from libraries, and if you take those reading materials OUT of those libraries, they will no longer be available to the people who use those facilities.

I am well aware that there are many Americans who can't grasp the fact that not everybody can afford everything that they can -- but it's true, none-the-less. I can afford to buy books -- but I am not the model of "everyman."
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Conservatives don't ban books.
Apparently, you don't get the news and not following what DeSantis has been doing and why, which is now a growing trend within Republican circles. Maybe if you actually looked and got your head out of the right-wing echo chamber you might learn at least a bit.

Here, to remove some of your ignorance on the subject: Florida schools directed to cover or remove classroom books that are not vetted


 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So we can't do anything about their IQ. What can we do about their attitudes and behavior besides not condone it? Can they help it?
Things like that tend to make wonder what exactly is going on. Admittedly that study does much better than most and it doesn't make it seem as though those like me just magically got a higher IQ overnight after we left all that behind, but it still see some issues. Like how measuring verbal IQ will tend to render lower results for those with autism, and near the end where it mentions anti-prejudice program of consider things from other people's perspective, which would be taxing, again, to many with autism.
But overall at least it is doing more than just looking at it simply from a simple perspective of IQ and it seems to do far more to not get confounded and riddled by highly intelligent apostates.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member

So according to your reasoning, if these books were provided to the library for free they would be on the shelves. Is that correct?

Because if that is the case, I am sure we could start a gofundme to get The Handmaid’s Tale back on the shelves.
No, that's not what I said. Furthermore the shelf space itself is a limited resource. Plus the overhead to put into the circulation system. So even a "free" donated book costs the library.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No, that's not what I said. Furthermore the shelf space itself is a limited resource. Plus the overhead to put into the circulation system. So even a "free" donated book costs the library.
How much do you actually know about libraries? How many libraries have you been to? How much do you know about managing such a collection?
And are you even paying attention to the OP because none of what you're saying has anything to do with it.
 
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