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American Muslims

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Hi all!
I've noticed there are two or three American Muslims on the forums.
In the media/tv/movies I don't see much about American Muslims. In fact, I think I'm a little disillusioned about America altogether.

But I'm curious, what is it like being a Muslim in America?
 
Hmmm well I don't really know how to answer that. It is normal for me. I never knew what it feels like to be Muslim in a Muslim majority country so IDK ahahaha
Sometimes I get rude remarks (especially when I dress in traditional Islamic clothing) but overall everyone is tolerant. There are a lot of things here that are haram though. Besides pork and alcohol, woman also dress in a way that is very revealing. And there is a greater mixing of genders. Also people tend to be very atheist. But none of that really bugs me that much. Just another obstacle to overcome hahaha
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Hmmm well I don't really know how to answer that. It is normal for me. I never knew what it feels like to be Muslim in a Muslim majority country so IDK ahahaha
Sometimes I get rude remarks (especially when I dress in traditional Islamic clothing) but overall everyone is tolerant. There are a lot of things here that are haram though. Besides pork and alcohol, woman also dress in a way that is very revealing. And there is a greater mixing of genders. Also people tend to be very atheist. But none of that really bugs me that much. Just another obstacle to overcome hahaha

That partly why I was curious, because a Muslim in America is exposed to the revealing clothing and all the modern western culture which is generally considered bad in Islam. It must be difficult to some extent. But it is interesting how living in a particular culture will influence your religious life and your outlook on life in general.

Do you live amongst a Muslim community or are you very mixed with the general population?
 
That partly why I was curious, because a Muslim in America is exposed to the revealing clothing and all the modern western culture which is generally considered bad in Islam. It must be difficult to some extent. But it is interesting how living in a particular culture will influence your religious life and your outlook on life in general.

Do you live amongst a Muslim community or are you very mixed with the general population?

Well there are many people who are Muslim here. But I live in a majority Mexican/Catholic area. I myself am Mexican :p
Of my four best friends, only two are Muslim. The other two being atheist.
 

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
Well, I'm not sure if my posts belong here, so feel free to ignore me. I met a Muslim last week who is attending the same university as me. We met each other in the math lab. We kind of worked on calculus together a little bit. He is from Afghanistan. He was an interpreter for the army for like five years. He is a really cool person. You can tell that he lives his religion. But he does it in a way that shows more by who he is than what you see on the outside. We talked for a while about Islam and how it was living here in Utah. He said it was really nice because Mormons and Muslims have so many of the same values. We try not to smoke or drink. We try to dress modestly. We all believe in Allah/God. He say's it's pretty nice that way. Anyway, I thought it was really cool. And I am super happy to finally know a Muslim personally. :)
 

Bismillah

Submit
Salaam,

Madhuri: I remember an Imam who, accurately, described that many of the Muslim youth live double lives. I think there are essentially two types of Muslims in America. Meaning that in front of their parents, in their house, and at the mosque they are devout Muslims and in front of their friends they act in ways that don't befit a Muslim.

When I was in high school I didn't have too much of interaction with the Muslim community, living 20 mins away from the local mosque. During this time my diin was very weak and some of my friends were bad influences. A lot of the times there would be girls present that were not the least bit Islamic. It was hard trying to reconcile my beliefs with this lifestyle since neither of my parents are devout Muslims i.e they do not pray regularly. When my grandad moved to America he alienated me even more from Islam. His constant lecturing and chastising made it that I almost ignored what he said completely. I was afraid what would happen when I would move to University. Would I make some stupid decisions that would affect me for a long time? By the grace of God, I found a Muslim roommate and given that the mosque is only five minutes away biking distance it became a part of my life. I realized that many American Muslims today do not incorporate Islamic society in their life as much as they should. After attending the mosque regularly all my problems dispeered. I found a great group of guys to exercise and socialize with. Really, it's been my time at University where I have found myself to become much more religious.

Though at times it can be quite annoying. A large chunk of my volunteering and community service was directly related to Muslim organizations and events at the mosque. I am always hesitant to discuss my religion when filling out such applications to minimize the chances of prejudice. You have to be quite crafty to list all these things without mentioning religion and numerous times I find myself straining to hide my faith, especially when I was younger, from others. Elementary and middle school were the toughest since it was during those years that the backlash against American Muslims after 9/11 occurred. Children can be quite savage to each other.

But I always have to thank for God for living in such a bountiful society where my standard of living is so much higher than many of my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters across the world. These trivialities are not important when I take a look at how blessed I am.

I am guessing you are Indian Madhuri? If so how do you find it living in Australia? I know some of my Hindu friends suffered the same type of rude comments I did. I'd also be interested in your experiences.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Abibi, thank you very much for the insight. It is very interesting so hear of other people's experiences.

I am actually not Indian. I am entirely European. But I did grow up with Hinduism and that was enough to make me the victim of ridicule by peers. Especially during primary school when I attended a Catholic institution. Some kids hated me specifically because of my religion. My experience has been very similar to what you described. Leading a double life. I knew a lot of my Hindu friends were devout at home and temple but then they would party and drink alcohol and other things that are frowned upon in my religion. I was always one of the few who didn't do those things.

That part of my life is also why I was curious about Muslims in America. It must be similar to grow up in a culture that is so different to your religious morals and not be influenced.

Thank you again for sharing :)
 

Starsoul

Truth
Abibi, thank you very much for the insight. It is very interesting so hear of other people's experiences.

I am actually not Indian. I am entirely European. But I did grow up with Hinduism and that was enough to make me the victim of ridicule by peers. Especially during primary school when I attended a Catholic institution. Some kids hated me specifically because of my religion. My experience has been very similar to what you described. Leading a double life. I knew a lot of my Hindu friends were devout at home and temple but then they would party and drink alcohol and other things that are frowned upon in my religion. I was always one of the few who didn't do those things.

That part of my life is also why I was curious about Muslims in America. It must be similar to grow up in a culture that is so different to your religious morals and not be influenced.

I have family in America, and friends who were born, and brought up there too. This is what I have noticed.

There probably is more percentage of muslims youths living double lives in america/ uk/Eu/ Aust than in an islamic country, But since the world really picks up quick on the trends of the countries who are the super powers (or ahead in economy and facilitated lifestyles) willingly or unwillingly, there is an increasing percentile of youth looking to drink and party even in Islamic countries ,( due to projection of ways to have fun by the media, movies etc) but offcorse all hush hush without the knowledge of their parents or people outside their circle for fear of getting caught.

Having said that, I have seen n met very well behaved and religiously aware muslims from the US who seem really good in their practice of religion.

I do think however, that living in the US and yet be a good Muslim is far more demanding and requires a constant effort on the parents part and the person himself. But, if a person does get influenced, which cannot be prevented at all instances and all the times, it may become hard for him to practice his beliefs even more so in such tempting, or non-islamic environment where it is just not possible for him to practise his beliefs with the same religious fervour that he could in a conducive environment for islam.

That is why, it is recommended in Islam for muslims to live and settle in countries where Islamic way of life and jurisprudence is the main rule ( to what extent is another debate ) because atleast people are aware of your religious background and nobody can belittle you for practicing your beliefs and a certain lifestyle. Although muslims can live anywhere, it just becomes easier living with people who are not hostile to your identity and do not take you for terrorists or worse. And you don't have to explain yourselves to people for what they never really wish to understand.

On the contrary, if you are a strong muslim, you really can create a well informed impression upon non-muslims and it gives good opportunity to bridge the mis-conceptions people have regarding Islam.
 

EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
That partly why I was curious, because a Muslim in America is exposed to the revealing clothing and all the modern western culture which is generally considered bad in Islam.?
We are exposed to those in Egypt and in most of the so-called "Islamic nations". :facepalm:
 
Madhuri said:
I knew a lot of my Hindu friends were devout at home and temple but then they would party and drink alcohol and other things that are frowned upon in my religion.
I just want to point out that this phenomenon doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religion. Kids usually don't live exactly the same life in front of their parents as with their friends, just because a family is not religious does not mean the kids will curse, drink, party and flirt with the opposite sex right in front of their parents.
 

Bismillah

Submit
I just want to point out that this phenomenon doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religion. Kids usually don't live exactly the same life in front of their parents as with their friends, just because a family is not religious does not mean the kids will curse, drink, party and flirt with the opposite sex right in front of their parents.
Of course not, but it just is much more dramatic because once religious children do indulge in these practices they are going against everything they profess to be. So while they might not be truly the same around their parents, that is a major difference for, say a Muslim, to go out partying at night clubs. That is a complete shift of identity and it's important for parents to understand what their kids are doing. I've met countless parents who are clueless about the whereabouts of their children, it's really just sad.
 

Alulu

Member
It's almost a natural consequence of children never having made a concious decision themselves to be Muslim but were raised by their parents and environment to be one. Combining with a young age and the natural disposition to discover and try things in life for young people.
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
Well, I'm not sure if my posts belong here, so feel free to ignore me. I met a Muslim last week who is attending the same university as me. We met each other in the math lab. We kind of worked on calculus together a little bit. He is from Afghanistan. He was an interpreter for the army for like five years. He is a really cool person. You can tell that he lives his religion. But he does it in a way that shows more by who he is than what you see on the outside. We talked for a while about Islam and how it was living here in Utah. He said it was really nice because Mormons and Muslims have so many of the same values. We try not to smoke or drink. We try to dress modestly. We all believe in Allah/God. He say's it's pretty nice that way. Anyway, I thought it was really cool. And I am super happy to finally know a Muslim personally. :)

Im very happy for you , congratulations :) .

That must have changed your view on Islam, right? I tend to think that its this kind of step that people are missing on this forum, and thats why we see all these attacks on Islam.

Is he like a real practicing Muslim? Prayers, good manners, no talking in the back of others and stuff like that?
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Im very happy for you , congratulations :) .

That must have changed your view on Islam, right? I tend to think that its this kind of step that people are missing on this forum, and thats why we see all these attacks on Islam.

Is he like a real practicing Muslim? Prayers, good manners, no talking in the back of others and stuff like that?

I agree Fatima. I think that there are a lot of stereotypes for Muslims and misunderstandings. It is partly why I ask so many questions on the Islam DIR. I want to understand the beliefs and cultural backgrounds and also to become friendly with Muslim people.
In the same respect, I think that some Muslims also misunderstand non-Muslim people. It is good for us to have interactions to take away the false ideas :)
 

Ram36

New Member
Even though I live in America and abide by its laws I also have an Islamic heart and I strive my best to be a good muslim thats it. The two goes together. My country allows me freedom of religion. With that choice I have chosen the religion of Islam. I abide by the law of the land and I try my best to live as a striving beliving muslim. This is what it is like for me to be a muslim in America.
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
I agree Fatima. I think that there are a lot of stereotypes for Muslims and misunderstandings. It is partly why I ask so many questions on the Islam DIR. I want to understand the beliefs and cultural backgrounds and also to become friendly with Muslim people.
In the same respect, I think that some Muslims also misunderstand non-Muslim people. It is good for us to have interactions to take away the false ideas :)


Sure thing :) I personally appreciate your passion for understanding other people , respect for that :)
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Even though I live in America and abide by its laws I also have an Islamic heart and I strive my best to be a good muslim thats it. The two goes together. My country allows me freedom of religion. With that choice I have chosen the religion of Islam. I abide by the law of the land and I try my best to live as a striving beliving muslim. This is what it is like for me to be a muslim in America.

Thank you for sharing :)
 
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