americans ask....why muslim? what is your strength to believe God?

[isdan6]

Yes, I agree that the conduct of those who profess a faith may not reflect the truth about that faith. I stated this in my post. Still, it appears to me a large number of Muslims, including many Islamic religious leaders, do engage in atrocities against their fellowman, in the name of Allah and Islam.

I tell you once again! atrocities are human's attitude islam will not allow anyone to USE or manipulating the name of islam to hurt others on behalf of sufdering people! NEVER I repeat NEVER! that man has fall into sin, and should repent. but when jihad is allowed? when islam people and islam religion will be genocided by others

 

[isdan6]

Namaste,

Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt. But, isn't it possible to have "faith" in science?

M.V.

faith here means to head to God's path not only in science! it is a big difference between faith in God and faith according to the science

 

[isdan6]

Explain how faith is necessary.

mm intersting question!!! how faith is necessary??? how...??
why suicide??? because you have been desperate, evil is whispering at you to finish your live! suicide! but if you believe in God you can still avoid yourself to commit suicide by realized that you almost making sins. God hate human when he abandons his own live! It's called SIN! and willbe punished as it weighted for all of his attitudes when he lives, BAD OR GOOD! so???? if you afraid of HELL you will consider how it is IMPORATANT i repeat VERY IMPORTANT IN YOUR LIVE to have faith in order to reach heaven by walking on the God's Path. and it is FAITH! thank you!

 

[YmirGF]

if you afraid of HELL you will consider how it isimportant to have faith in order to reach heaven by walking on the God's Path. and it is FAITH! thank you!

Actually, if you have fear of burning in hell, for all eternity, you don't need faith to steer you as your fear will provide all the motivation needed. Faith would be incidental to the fear.

 

[tumbleweed41]

mm intersting question!!! how faith is necessary??? how...??
why suicide??? because you have been desperate, evil is whispering at you to finish your live! suicide! but if you believe in God you can still avoid yourself to commit suicide by realized that you almost making sins. God hate human when he abandons his own live! It's called SIN! and willbe punished as it weighted for all of his attitudes when he lives, BAD OR GOOD! so???? if you afraid of HELL you will consider how it is IMPORATANT i repeat VERY IMPORTANT IN YOUR LIVE to have faith in order to reach heaven by walking on the God's Path. and it is FAITH! thank you!

Yet I have no compulsion to commit suicide, despite my lack of faith.
Simply realizing this life is all I have gives value to living, no fear of punishment is needed.

 

[Sculelos]

Actually, if you have fear of burning in hell, for all eternity, you don't need faith to steer you as your fear will provide all the motivation needed. Faith would be incidental to the fear.

There is no burning as those who blantently refuse to follow God will simply slumber forevermore and the smoke (Story) of their torment (Life on Earth) will be seen by future generations over and over again for all of eternity so in a way the wicked will be remembered but yet they will be essentially unplugged for all of eternity.

I will say the Torture Chamber hell is one of Satan's greatest fantasy's but yet Satan himself will suffer the same fate and be unplugged with the smoke of his testing remaining for all to study and learn from.

If you asked me if I feared God I would undoubtedly say yes!

Edit: If you want to understand my sentiment listen to this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX4fC4WFCIU

Edit 2: I think even Muslims can relate to this song perfectly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaeOHM7eaf4

 

[Father Heathen]

Religion is the dirty lens - stained by irrational and unsubstantiated perceptions, portrayals and presumptions - and tended to by self-appointed and self-serving middlemen, through which humans view the concept of god.

 

[McBell]

Glad to hear that from an american ( you ) but mostly I found is the opposite. they are so anti muslim? why??? try reflecting to yourself I said, instrospect ourselves, did we never do anything to hurt someone else ( muslims ) in the past? don't we? so that we got paid? revenge or something from tge same person or others as a result? what we gotra do is to appologize one each other if there any mistake we've done in the past relized or not! right? that's what God wants. thanks..

Mostly I hear about Muslims blowing up as many innocent people as possible because someone not Muslim said the name Mohamed.
Am I to go with your logic and label every Muslim world wide as a bomb happy murderer?

 

[McBell]

I tell you once again! atrocities are human's attitude islam will not allow anyone to USE or manipulating the name of islam to hurt others on behalf of sufdering people! NEVER I repeat NEVER! that man has fall into sin, and should repent. but when jihad is allowed? when islam people and islam religion will be genocided by others

No true Scotsman?

 

[Riverwolf]

what I mean is science needs hypothesis, analitical, and research! to find a theory! but faith you can't argue with! you just have to accept in your heart and your mind. that's what I mean you can't debate religion to science or fiction theory! right? because you can't find any solution or result to combine both science and faith or to maka a comprehension both into one solution! that's what I mean! yhanks

Ah, I gotcha.

 

[Riverwolf]

to ALL especially THE AMERICANS , Islam never hate the other religioners but also pray for them to be blessed.

I know.

I especially dreaming that someday people of AMERICA could understand deeply what is the real islam and shake hand together, sit together, laughing together with islam people around the world, no hate, no fight!

Don't worry, this will come eventually.

Yesterday, America's bogeyman was "the commies." Now it's "dem turrurists." Tomorrow it'll be someone else.

it will be a beautiful world on earth . enjoy listening the beautiful of reading Alquran with melody. like a preoccupied song. very touching to hear. so lovely,..ISLAM ACTUALLY IS A PEACE! beyond that is not real islam! thank you for doubting islam. Islam will wait until you find the truth and understanding.many bad rumors are attacking islam. but islam will keep stand with Unruly! Thank God Allah SWT.

Yet let us all remember Surah 109. ^_^

Let us also have tolerance of other religions, and as far as politics go, place no more importance on one over another.

Don't confuse most Americans with the American military/government. Most of us aren't like that.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I answered : nothing most power but only God. including the way of God to make me as a muslim. Praise God! Alhamdulillah hirrobil alamin. Thank God!

wonderful greetings! the one God much powerfuls has made strength go on me with most powers in muslim God of most strongers of infidel america poeples!

 

[isdan6]

Iam so relieved and glad to see someone here profess to be afraid of God like I am. we should be afraid, if we are sane.It is simple, we are all God's creation. we are weak before God, right? and it works only for a faith man! so? why I got banned when I say this on a RELIGIOUS FORUM SITE? by the administrator? was he allergic with islam? because these people are not being enlightened yet! should we enlighten them? as a muslim we should! basicly they just allergic with the truth I told about islam. thanks

 

[Renji]

I answered : nothing most power but only God. including the way of God to make me as a muslim. Praise God! Alhamdulillah hirrobil alamin. Thank God!

I think it's not only the Americans who asks that question to a muslim, at the same time, it's not only the muslims who are asked of that question... May I know the basis of your question and what does it have to do with science?

 

[Renji]

Iam so relieved and glad to see someone here profess to be afraid of God like I am. we should be afraid, if we are sane.It is simple, we are all God's creation. we are weak before God, right? and it works only for a faith man! so? why I got banned when I say this on a RELIGIOUS FORUM SITE? by the administrator? was he allergic with islam? because these people are not being enlightened yet! should we enlighten them? as a muslim we should! basicly they just allergic with the truth I told about islam. thanks

See forum rule #8 my dear.

 

[isdan6]

Religion is the dirty lens - stained by irrational and unsubstantiated perceptions, portrayals and presumptions - and tended to by self-appointed and self-serving middlemen, through which humans view the concept of god.

because you see religion on the bad side! negative side! FAITH IN GOD is not a manmade, but it is a transformation in order to find the trully truth! and people find it in God, in scriptures, Alquran, and the history of prophets, apostles. the first revelation to Mohammed SAW from angel gibrael.... read! Iqra.. means READ, THERE IS NO GOD BUT ONE GOD IS ALLAH SAW! GOD WILL NEVER BEEN BEARING AND NEVER BEEN BEARED! GOD IS SINGLE AND CHARACTERISTICALLY ETERNAL! NOT LIKE GOD'S CREATURES INCLUDING HUMAN WILL COME TO DEATH! thank you SUBHANNALLAH.

 

[Poeticus]

Namaste,

No need for caps, brother. And, put up some funny memes in my new thread which I just posted.

M.V.

 

[isdan6]

I think it's not only the Americans who asks that question to a muslim, at the same time, it's not only the muslims who are asked of that question... May I know the basis of your question and what does it have to do with science?

we believe that science and FAITH IN GOD have their own ways... you can't meet them all in one glass! it will ruin the signification essence of both and it will comes fight! so please don't mix them up! thank you!

 

[McBell]

because you see religion on the bad side! negative side! FAITH IN GOD is not a manmade, but it is a transformation in order to find the trully truth! and people find it in God, in scriptures, Alquran, and the history of prophets, apostles. the first revelation to Mohammed SAW from angel gibrael.... read! Iqra.. means READ, THERE IS NO GOD BUT ONE GOD IS ALLAH SAW! GOD WILL NEVER BEEN BEARING AND NEVER BEEN BEARED! GOD IS SINGLE AND CHARACTERISTICALLY ETERNAL! NOT LIKE GOD'S CREATURES INCLUDING HUMAN WILL COME TO DEATH! thank you SUBHANNALLAH.

Are you going to ever actually address my post or are you content with hiding from it?

 

[danieldemol]

we believe that science and FAITH IN GOD have their own ways... you can't meet them all in one glass! it will ruin the signification essence of both and it will comes fight! so please don't mix them up! thank you!

Dear Isdan6,

If science and faith should not meet in one glass, let us request the moderators to move this thread from the "science and religion" glass (ie forum) to the "religious debates" forum.

Kind regards