americans ask....why muslim? what is your strength to believe God?

[isdan6]

Dear Isdan6,

If science and faith should not meet in one glass, let us request the moderators to move this thread from the "science and religion" glass (ie forum) to the "religious debates" forum.

Kind regards

okay you may do that. but you seems still don't understand what the moderator means here with the forum title.. sciende and faith..science personally and the same with faith in personal. eventhough they are in the same sentence it doesn't mean yoh can combine them both into one session as you like. you have to sort out both into a single matter each. you got it? thank you

 

[isdan6]

and by the way you have a good idea to move it on

 

[isdan6]

Are you going to ever actually address my post or are you content with hiding from it?

what?????

 

[Sculelos]

Isdan6 keep in mind most American's don't really think about Muslims all that much but when they do their opinions of Muslims are pretty much all formed by Jewish and Zionist Media which naturally exhort Judaism and actively mock Christianity and Islam.

And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

 

[Philomath]

Isdan6 keep in mind most American's don't really think about Muslims all that much but when they do their opinions of Muslims are pretty much all formed by Jewish and Zionist Media which naturally exhort Judaism and actively mock Christianity and Islam.

I need to :run:from this thread lol

 

[Sculelos]

I need to :run:from this thread lol

Just remember Jews control about 50% of the Worlds wealth but only have less then .1% of the Words population, with that much money they can pretty much influence everything, everywhere, especially America since we are not a democracy anymore since the people with the money control the options and our education systems alike so they indoctrinate us, give us multiple choice questions where all answers are carefully pre-screened and then call it a day. Real American issues will be conveniently ignored whenever it suits them and they will actively try to distract people with whatever means necessary from finding out how things actually operate.

And probably only 1% of the people who read this will believe what I said... :run:

 

[rusra02]

I tell you once again! atrocities are human's attitude islam will not allow anyone to USE or manipulating the name of islam to hurt others on behalf of sufdering people! NEVER I repeat NEVER! that man has fall into sin, and should repent. but when jihad is allowed? when islam people and islam religion will be genocided by others

I think you are saying that Islam does not permit hurting anyone EXCEPT if Islam is attacked. Doesn't that give license for terrorism? All one needs to do is say someone attacked my religion. The man who mocked Mphammed had a price put on his head, is that not so? And is it not terrorism to kill someone for mocking your faith?

 

[isdan6]

Just remember Jews control about 50% of the Worlds wealth but only have less then .1% of the Words population, with that much money they can pretty much influence everything, everywhere, especially America since we are not a democracy anymore since the people with the money control the options and our education systems alike so they indoctrinate us, give us multiple choice questions where all answers are carefully pre-screened and then call it a day. Real American issues will be conveniently ignored whenever it suits them and they will actively try to distract people with whatever means necessary from finding out how things actually operate.

And probably only 1% of the people who read this will believe what I said... :run:

we can condidere it what you're saying is a true. really! I have been thinking what you have said long time ago before you said that. so it is not a new news. despite of jews have lots of the richest people but muslims in arab also the richest. we can fight them back, don't worry. amrrican, we also can defeat their knowledge so why don't their idology? huh? right? thanks

 

[isdan6]

I think you are saying that Islam does not permit hurting anyone EXCEPT if Islam is attacked. Doesn't that give license for terrorism? All one needs to do is say someone attacked my religion. The man who mocked Mphammed had a price put on his head, is that not so? And is it not terrorism to kill someone for mocking your faith?

Are you aaying that muslim doesn't have heart? conscience and sanity? we are not a stupid child who you can lie to... we are a scientists too, a hypothesises should be proved the fact should be analyzed, rumors should be proved by doing research. surveys, observation, collecting some informations, and other activities thing. so? it is not that simlle just to believe any rumors! we are the smart guys too. and and again I said terrorim is not our product actually,..on the contrary it is an american ptoduct, BELIAVE IT OR NOT,.. read the article on some newspaper. thank you.......

 

[isdan6]

Isdan6 keep in mind most American's don't really think about Muslims all that much but when they do their opinions of Muslims are pretty much all formed by Jewish and Zionist Media which naturally exhort Judaism and actively mock Christianity and Islam.

don't really think about muslims.. that will be fine but what we need is do not be hate the muslims as well, we don't like that too, don't be shutting the opportunities for muslims to have a green card, become an american citizen, working in america and so on! because I didn't see that goes well as normal too! so??? what is wrong with your statement? And I agree jews and zionist media is a root for all conflict between west and east countries! thank you sculeos.I hope your statement could be attracting attention to all american people and Obama especially! and could be REALIZED, thanks

 

[Riverwolf]

Are you aaying that muslim doesn't have heart? conscience and sanity? we are not a stupid child who you can lie to... we are a scientists too, a hypothesises should be proved the fact should be analyzed, rumors should be proved by doing research. surveys, observation, collecting some informations, and other activities thing. so? it is not that simlle just to believe any rumors! we are the smart guys too. and and again I said terrorim is not our product actually,..on the contrary it is an american ptoduct, BELIAVE IT OR NOT,.. read the article on some newspaper. thank you.......

Well, to be fair, terrorism is neither American nor is it Muslim, any more than it's Irish, English, or Indian.

It's the result of people who are so frustrated that the world isn't to their vision, and the only way they know how to express that frustration is to commit horrendous acts of violence.

 

[isdan6]

Well, to be fair, terrorism is neither American nor is it Muslim, any more than it's Irish, English, or Indian.

It's the result of people who are so frustrated that the world isn't to their vision, and the only way they know how to express that frustration is to commit horrendous acts of violence.

I add it more,.. The terrorism comes by "the fairness principles"! we know that is true. why? because the rebellion comes from the unfairness right? if you are satisfied by fairness, so you will not necessary to rebel, right? so which one country who always orphaning central east countries ( islamic countries ) including palestine. When there is a consensus of peace between israel and palestine. because america always stand on israel's side. so people of palestine ofcourse feeling hurt cause of that! and always harming palestine's people. so... thank you for the unfairness attitude from the great country in the world ... USA...

 

[Riverwolf]

I add it more,.. The terrorism comes by "the fairness principles"! we know that is true. why? because the rebellion comes from the unfairness right? if you are satisfied by fairness, so you will not necessary to rebel, right? so which one country who always orphaning central east countries ( islamic countries ) including palestine. When there is a consensus of peace between israel and palestine. because america always stand on israel's side. so people of palestine ofcourse feeling hurt cause of that! and always harming palestine's people. so... thank you for the unfairness attitude from the great country in the world ... USA...

Don't confuse me with the rest. I'm just Vinlandborn; I don't consider myself American. I'm a Greco-Gaelo-Anglo-Saxon. As far as I'm concerned, America isn't any greater than any other country.

In any case, I know little to nothing about the problems in the Middle East, and so have no opinion on the matter other than sympathy for the civilians in the entire region. But I have my own rebellion to fight, one that doesn't even break the law, let alone shed blood.

 

[isdan6]

Don't confuse me with the rest. I'm just Vinlandborn; I don't consider myself American. I'm a Greco-Gaelo-Anglo-Saxon. As far as I'm concerned, America isn't any greater than any other country.

In any case, I know little to nothing about the problems in the Middle East, and so have no opinion on the matter other than sympathy for the civilians in the entire region. But I have my own rebellion to fight, one that doesn't even break the law, let alone shed blood.

I am so appreciate it that you do not consider yourself as an american, I am saluted that you are so humble not like mostly americans are so arrogant. like they are always right.. or Mr. Right man. I think americans never learn from their experiences. why people around the world will always think that americans particularly their leader since time to time always making a controversial decision and extremes decisions, to its foreign politic, what do you think?!

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

I am so appreciate it that you do not consider yourself as an american, I am saluted that you are so humble not like mostly americans are so arrogant. like they are always right.. or Mr. Right man. I think americans never learn from their experiences. why people around the world will always think that americans particularly their leader since time to time always make a controversial decision and extremes decisions, what do you think!

This smells of irony can someone please confirm?

 

[Riverwolf]

I am so appreciate it that you do not consider yourself as an american, I am saluted that you are so humble not like mostly americans are so arrogant. like they are always right.. or Mr. Right man. I think americans never learn from their experiences. why people around the world will always think that americans particularly their leader since time to time always making a controversial decision and extremes decisions, to its foreign politic, what do you think?!

Most Americans aren't like that, either.

Most Americans are just like Most Everyone: they're just trying to eat for the day. Beyond that, we're as varied as everyone else. You only hear about the arrogant ones because they're the ones making noise. At night, crickets are the ones making all the noise, but even then, there's hundreds of other bugs sharing that same space which you'll never hear.

Politicians in America, and pretty much everywhere else so far as I can tell, don't care about common people, though they often say they do. They care about power and influence.

 

[isdan6]

Most Americans aren't like that, either.

Most Americans are just like Most Everyone: they're just trying to eat for the day. Beyond that, we're as varied as everyone else. You only hear about the arrogant ones because they're the ones making noise. At night, crickets are the ones making all the noise, but even then, there's hundreds of other bugs sharing that same space which you'll never hear.

Politicians in America, and pretty much everywhere else so far as I can tell, don't care about common people, though they often say they do. They care about power and influence.

what I can tell you most wishes for you with many hopes that I hope americans are so humble like you said! but why on some rooms I found many chatters are deniers who alwasy taking place as an opponent against me? is that an error sample? what do you think of that? could people or the american thinkers be changed? but if it is true what you were just saying this world will be brighter than ever, can you guarantee that what you're saying is the truth and nothing but the truth? thank you riv

 

[Riverwolf]

what I can tell you most wishes for you with many hopes that I hope americans are so humble like you said! but why on some rooms I found many chatters are deniers who alwasy taking place as an opponent against me? is that an error sample? what do you think of that? could people or the american thinkers be changed? but if it is true what you were just saying this world will be brighter than ever, can you guarantee that what you're saying is the truth and nothing but the truth? thank you riv

Nobody can truly claim to only have the truth and nothing but the truth; all we can ever have is our own experiences.

You're on the internet. The internet is a place of much bile and trash. You'll find sexism, racism, etc. on all kinds of forums and message boards. But those people spouting that bile are just a loud minority. They don't make up the majority.

There's a saying from the Dao De Jing that I very much agree with: he who speaks much knows little, and he who speaks little knows much.

 

[Badran]

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