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americans ask....why muslim? what is your strength to believe God?

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isdan6

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I answered : nothing most power but only God. including the way of God to make me as a muslim. Praise God! Alhamdulillah hirrobil alamin. Thank God!
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
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Thing is, that exact answer is pretty much why I'm Asatru: to quote the song Hymn of the Immortal Warriors, Odin's call was heard above them all.
 

isdan6

Member
and about what this have to do with science??? THAT'S WHY I TOLD YOU "NOTHING" HAVE! faith and science both must be separated can not be discussed together, they are both have their own interest and goal! thank you
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
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and about what this have to do with science??? THAT'S WHY I TOLD YOU "NOTHING" HAVE! faith and science both must be separated can not be discussed together, they are both have their own interest and goal! thank you

But didn't Islam in particular have a wonderful relationship with science back in ye olde days?
 

rusra02

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it was spoken islam is to perfecting the last tenet. so islam is a perfection. thanks for asking..

The fruitage or works of many who profess Islam would appear to show Islam is far from perfect. Muslims murder each other, and commit acts of terrorism, according to news reports.
Of course, the works of many professed "Christians" bring reproach to that name also. But I believe the Bible itself does not support war and murder by Christians. (Matthew 26:52)
 

isdan6

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But didn't Islam in particular have a wonderful relationship with science back in ye olde days?
what I mean is science needs hypothesis, analitical, and research! to find a theory! but faith you can't argue with! you just have to accept in your heart and your mind. that's what I mean you can't debate religion to science or fiction theory! right? because you can't find any solution or result to combine both science and faith or to maka a comprehension both into one solution! that's what I mean! yhanks
 

isdan6

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The fruitage or works of many who profess Islam would appear to show Islam is far from perfect. Muslims murder each other, and commit acts of terrorism, according to news reports.
Of course, the works of many professed "Christians" bring reproach to that name also. But I believe the Bible itself does not support war and murder by Christians. (Matthew 26:52)
you seems not any close to our comprehension about islam. terrorism is everyone's product not specifically relating to religion or faith! you are wrong. islam is not murder between them. protestant and catholic also fight one each other to win it course! what I want to say it is all about person! you can't generalize it to all! I am sorry I 've to say you're absolutely false! read Alquran carefully and ask to the expert of islam, then you make a comment! sometimes what you see could deceive you! thanks
 
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isdan6

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Sorry if I'm wrong... But I think he's asking this because you posted this discussion in the section of Science and Religion.

Maybe you posted this in the wrong section?
nope I m exactly in the right room. sometimes you just have to believe better than you don't. and sometimes you also have to eliminate some logical mind! that's all. thanks
 

isdan6

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to ALL especially THE AMERICANS , Islam never hate the other religioners but also pray for them to be blessed. I especially dreaming that someday people of AMERICA could understand deeply what is the real islam and shake hand together, sit together, laughing together with islam people around the world, no hate, no fight! it will be a beautiful world on earth . enjoy listening the beautiful of reading Alquran with melody. like a preoccupied song. very touching to hear. so lovely,..ISLAM ACTUALLY IS A PEACE! beyond that is not real islam! thank you for doubting islam. Islam will wait until you find the truth and understanding.many bad rumors are attacking islam. but islam will keep stand with Unruly! Thank God Allah SWT.
 
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tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
There are many Americans who do not 'hate' Islam. But rather see Islam as another unnecessary belief in a world of observable natural wonders. (That would be the science part of the discussion)
 

isdan6

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There are many Americans who do not 'hate' Islam. But rather see Islam as another unnecessary belief in a world of observable natural wonders. (That would be the science part of the discussion)
Glad to hear that from an american ( you ) but mostly I found is the opposite. they are so anti muslim? why??? try reflecting to yourself I said, instrospect ourselves, did we never do anything to hurt someone else ( muslims ) in the past? don't we? so that we got paid? revenge or something from tge same person or others as a result? what we gotra do is to appologize one each other if there any mistake we've done in the past relized or not! right? that's what God wants. thanks..
 
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rusra02

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you seems not any close to our comprehension about islam. terrorism is everyone's product not specifically relating to religion or faith! you are wrong. islam is not murder between them. protestant and catholic also fight one each other to win it course! what I want to say it is all about person! you can't generalize it to all! I am sorry I 've to say you're absolutely false! read Alquran carefully and ask to the expert of islam, then you make a comment! sometimes what you see could deceive you! thanks

Yes, I agree that the conduct of those who profess a faith may not reflect the truth about that faith. I stated this in my post. Still, it appears to me a large number of Muslims, including many Islamic religious leaders, do engage in atrocities against their fellowman, in the name of Allah and Islam.
 

isdan6

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There are many Americans who do not 'hate' Islam. But rather see Islam as another unnecessary belief in a world of observable natural wonders. (That would be the science part of the discussion)
and I agree, SCIENCE is the part of our live need. but don't forget FAITH is the whole we need in our live, right? do it to be PIOUS on erath. thank you
 

illykitty

RF's pet cat
I have unfortunately people who hate Muslims in my family (Hungarians and Canadians). It is sad and I can't change their mind. I know plenty of Muslims who are against hurting others and are very peaceful.

And yes, some might not agree... I need science and God in my life. It's never been an issue for me. There's no such thing as science against religion in my mind.
 

Poeticus

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Namaste,

Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt. But, isn't it possible to have "faith" in science?

M.V.
 
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