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An Atheist Meets God: A Cartoon
- Thread starter Skwim
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I want to thank you, Skwim, for consistently raising this question. Some times I get tired of hearing it, but somehow you never get tired of posting it like I would. Here's a mind blower:
Does this guy look to you like Nicholas Cage?
Many things wrong. First only those who die for Jesus' name sake get to meet God. Next, everybody sleeps until the judgement day, no floating right on up there. Then the Saints judge the Earth and they also judge the Angels. If the guy actually was good he wouldn't need a savior and would be just fine. Probably wasn't but figured 10 years working in a homeless shelter would pay his debt. So the guy just plain hated authority, rather than believing in Jesus and being saved, thought his way would work. Oops, burned in hell...stubborn fool.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Question? What question?
How do you know? Is it in the Bible somewhere? Chapter and verse if you don't mind.
I assume you mean that everybody is in heaven's waiting room waiting for the gatekeeper to come with the key. How very odd.
Curious. Just what Christian denomination, sect, or cult do you belong to?
God doesn't seem to think so. As he said, "Good bye non-Christian."
He probably hated blind faith more.
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wonderful cartoons,
Gigglez inanely
Gigglez inanely
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
The notion of doing good simply because you care seems to be lost on a lot of Christians.
The Holy Bottom Burp
Active Member
Yeah, funny, God is a cloud with a beard and a crown! I'd agree that it is a bit of harmless satire, and in truth only addresses those Christians with that particular brand of fundamentalist literalism. What is a Fundamentalist? No fun, too much damn, and not enough mental! (okay I admit that is Bart Ehrman's gag!).
I think it does provoke some thought on what Christian salvation means, if the sacrificial death of Jesus is not enough to "save" us all, what was the point? Salvation still comes with conditions? We had that in the OT times didn't we? I think the cartoon @Brickjectivity posted beats it, it is also a bit silly but the message at the end is poignant, and probably speaks more truth about the human condition than any preacher or holy book.
I'd agree that it is a bit of harmless satire, and in truth only addresses those Christians with that particular brand of fundamentalist literalism. What is a Fundamentalist? No fun, too much damn, and not enough mental! (okay I admit that is Bart Ehrman's gag!).I think it does provoke some thought on what Christian salvation means, if the sacrificial death of Jesus is not enough to "save" us all, what was the point? Salvation still comes with conditions? We had that in the OT times didn't we? I think the cartoon @Brickjectivity posted beats it, it is also a bit silly but the message at the end is poignant, and probably speaks more truth about the human condition than any preacher or holy book.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Doesn't count. As pointed out in the cartoon, one may as well have been a baby raper. Baby raper or do-gooder atheist the verdict is the same: You're going to hell dude.
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DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
All the good you do cannot and never will erase all the bad you do.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I wasn't talking about the cartoon, but rather @Kemosloby 's notion that people only do good deeds because they expect something in return.
But yes, it does seem that, according to Christian theology, character and conduct are meaningless, and licking god's boots is all that truly matters.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
But whose making this argument?
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
He does raise some good repeated points. I have yet to hear a christian answer it from a non-bias point of view, though.
If jesus walked on water near over 2,000 years ago, what part of the century did all miracles just cease to happen? I mean, if the apostles really wrote what god told them (and Moses and so forth), who gave the next person the authority to re-write god's original words. Muslims and Jews try to keep the original words yet in christianity, well, if you go to a seminary, they don't even let you read Church documents. They have all the books under lock and key (but you can look in the window) and it's only for seminary students working to be priests.
Anyway, the video was silly but I'd love to hear rational christian points of view that isn't bias.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Was trying to think of my comment. That's what it was @Swim,
@Kemosloby,
Kem, what is the value of being and doing good if it doesn't mean anything unless you worship god?
Isn't that more, by definition, slavery?
You don't have to be forced to be a slave. Many slaves actually have ran away only to be killed (or put into judgement etc) only to run away again if they survived to save their life.
If someone finds that their life is saved by another faith and their heart is hurt by the christian god, by what reason does god have to judge him to eternal death other than not obeying his master?
I believe that it was Samuel Clemens who quipped: "Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company."
Tom
Thief
Rogue Theologian
he must have assumed.....he could come as go as he pleasesI believe that it was Samuel Clemens who quipped: "Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company."
Tom
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
the cartoon expresses the inanity of Christian religion. fear based delusions , and irrational at that.
it's a shame people that worship this God can't come to grips with reality. isn't it all about what you make of who you are and not some wild irrational judgments.
quite frankly Christians freak me out. and I know of a bunch of them. reason goes right out the window with them.
it's a shame people that worship this God can't come to grips with reality. isn't it all about what you make of who you are and not some wild irrational judgments.
quite frankly Christians freak me out. and I know of a bunch of them. reason goes right out the window with them.
No.
No, I don't think that was the point at all. At least, it isn't the point to me.
YMMV.
Tom
I have almost no idea of how to answer such a question.