An interesting observation about the Electoral College

[JIMMY12345]

From today's New York Times:

Republicans' Electoral College Edge, Once Seen as Ironclad, Looks to Be Fading​

A caution: the article is neither short not easy ...

Thank you so much for posting this.We all appreciate.VIP.

 

[Watchmen]

No, the step in the right direction is what is usd in all other elections, popular vote. It would simplify the election and focus on all citizens in the US, not just a few states. Candidates would have to speak to all citizens in every state.

I posted an explanation of why the Electoral College was created, and the reasons are no longer relevant today. If congress were to start over today they wouldn't create the EC, i would be popular vote.


Whose mob attacked the Capitol? The Democrats don't have mobs, they have peaceful protests demanding women's reproductive rights and police reform. They protest bad SCOTUS decisions that reverse the liberties of citizens. It's the same court that decided presidents have massive immunity from crimes while in office.

Between the two parties which side is going backwards in regards to rights and progress? Which party wants to round up migrants and deport them withou any consideration for how they contribute to the economy? Which side is banning women's reproductive care with such rigid laws that medical staff can't treat women in medical distress? Which side wants to cut taxes for the most wealthy and offers no practical policies to reduce the everyday costs of living? Whose party is using race baiting to drum up fervor and support? Which side created 5 sets of fake electors to overturn democracy?

Democratic shouldn’t have been capitalized. It’s not a reference to a political party, I was quoting what you posted and it’s very relevant today. In fact, your post proves it. Imagine if the far right MAGA folks were the “popular” majority. You wouldn’t like that, would you? You’d probably want the electoral college to offset, right?

Your reasoning is also flawed. Popular vote would not get the candidates speaking to more states, just different states. My proposal maintains the benefits of the electoral college while spreading out the electoral votes more. More states. Votes count more.

 

[F1fan]

Democratic shouldn’t have been capitalized. It’s not a reference to a political party,

Language has changed since the 18th century.

I was quoting what you posted and it’s very relevant today. In fact, your post proves it. Imagine if the far right MAGA folks were the “popular” majority. You wouldn’t like that, would you? You’d probably want the electoral college to offset, right?

Trump is a populist minority, but exploiting the Electoral College system in a way the Founding Fathers did not foresee.

I prefer the EC be eliminated and adopt a ranked election process. This would actually help a thrid party emerge and be relevant.

Your reasoning is also flawed. Popular vote would not get the candidates speaking to more states, just different states.

You didn't explain how my reasoning is flawed. A popular vote would mean candidates would have to appeal to a broad range of citizens, and likely every vote anywhere being crucial.

My proposal maintains the benefits of the electoral college while spreading out the electoral votes more. More states. Votes count more.

I didn't see you argue for any benefits for the EC. It renders about half the voters in about 45 states irrelevant. Only a small collection of swing states matter and decide our president. Only conservatives like this because it's the only way for the republicans to have a chance to win.

 

[Alien826]

Democratic shouldn’t have been capitalized.

Language has changed since the 18th century.

Democratic (upper case D) is the correct name of the party, "Democrat party" is often used but incorrect.
Democrat (upper case D) refers to a member of the Democratic party.
democratic (lower case d) refers to democracy in general.

 

[Watchmen]

Language has changed since the 18th century.

Trump is a populist minority, but exploiting the Electoral College system in a way the Founding Fathers did not foresee.

I prefer the EC be eliminated and adopt a ranked election process. This would actually help a thrid party emerge and be relevant.

You didn't explain how my reasoning is flawed. A popular vote would mean candidates would have to appeal to a broad range of citizens, and likely every vote anywhere being crucial.

I didn't see you argue for any benefits for the EC. It renders about half the voters in about 45 states irrelevant. Only a small collection of swing states matter and decide our president. Only conservatives like this because it's the only way for the republicans to have a chance to win.

I’m not a conservative so you’re making a lot of assumptions. I’ve pointed out the benefits of the EC numerous times. I also noticed you didn’t answer my questions.

 

[Watchmen]

Democratic (upper case D) is the correct name of the party, "Democrat party" is often used but incorrect.
Democrat (upper case D) refers to a member of the Democratic party.
democratic (lower case d) refers to democracy in general.

Thanks. I don’t think F1fan gets it.

 

[Kathryn]

Yes and an even simpler and fairer to all solution is just to count the popular vote, while we may not have had the technology in 1800, we certainly do now.

We can start by doing as I brought up, and we don't have to either count the votes or get rid of the electoral college.