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[Earthling]

Over the last 22 years or so I've been for the most part pretty active on forums like this, religious forums, and I've noticed something over the last decade. I see it here as well. The predominate participant in religious discussion are irreligious. Outspoken or militant skeptics of the Bible and spirituality. Now I understand that my message tends to alienate everyone, believer and unbeliever alike, and truth be told I prefer discussions with atheist because they are more practical than the average believer, who is idealistic IMO, so I'm not complaining, but I am of the opinion that the reason for this is that the believer is quite comfortable in America, but the atheist (in one form or another, I use the term skeptic) is a somewhat repressed minority, politically and socially.

Do you think there is any truth to that?

 

[Kenny]

no

 

[icehorse]

Speaking for myself, as an anti-theist, I think religion these days does more harm than good so I debate the religious to try do to my little part to make the world a better place

 

[Altfish]

Outspoken or militant skeptics of the Bible and spirituality.

What is a militant skeptic?

Do they fly planes into buildings?
Do they set off bombs at arenas or on trains?
Do they intimidate women and shoot doctors at female health clinics?

 

[Earthling]

Speaking for myself, as an anti-theist, I think religion these days does more harm than good so I debate the religious to try do to my little part to make the world a better place

How's that working out for you? How long have you been doing it? Have you come to the conclusion that it's a complete waste of time, yet? If not, you will.

 

[ecco]

...I prefer discussions with atheist because they are more practical than the average believer... but I am of the opinion that the reason for this is that the atheist is a somewhat repressed minority, politically and socially.

Do you think there is any truth to that?

We are a repressed minority.

However, if you are using this definition of practical...

of or concerned with the actual doing or use of something rather than with theory and ideas.​

I wouldn't say that applies to atheists. I think we are far more concerned with theories and ideas than the average religious person.

I should add that we give short shrift to those theories and ideas we consider to be nonsense and BS.

 

[Earthling]

What is a militant skeptic?

Do they fly planes into buildings?

No, that's the Bush / Chaney administration and Israel. Fake Christians and Jews.

Do they set off bombs at arenas or on trains?

No, again, those are politically minded atheists.

Do they intimidate women and shoot doctors at female health clinics?

Yes and no respectively.

 

[Nakosis]

Over the last 22 years or so I've been for the most part pretty active on forums like this, religious forums, and I've noticed something over the last decade. I see it here as well. The predominate participant in religious discussion are irreligious. Outspoken or militant skeptics of the Bible and spirituality. Now I understand that my message tends to alienate everyone, believer and unbeliever alike, and truth be told I prefer discussions with atheist because they are more practical than the average believer, who is idealistic IMO, so I'm not complaining, but I am of the opinion that the reason for this is that the believer is quite comfortable in America, but the atheist (in one form or another, I use the term skeptic) is a somewhat repressed minority, politically and socially.

Do you think there is any truth to that?

Repressed in the sense that most folks I run into are uncomfortable in the presence of an atheist. So I don't advertise it.

People seem more comfortable when they are surrounded by other religious folks, even those from a different religion than around an atheist.

I assume however, people who are active on a public religious forum like this come here willing to be confronted with uncomfortable questions and ideas.

 

[ChristineM]

No, that's the Bush / Chaney administration and Israel. Fake Christians and Jews.



No, again, those are politically minded atheists.



Yes and no respectively.

Is your tinfoil hat faulty?

I object strongly to your accusation. It is an insult t those killed and injured in religiously motivated bombings as the vast majority are.

 

[Cacotopia]

For sure, we are seen as untrustworthy on the sole basis of a lack of belief and there are some states that bar atheists from seeking a position in politics, in particular Texas has a law specifically barring atheists from being elected as a congressman/woman.

When other religious minorities or atheists wish to enter a prayer before political hearings they are met with backs turned and snickers. So yes I do think that atheists are a repressed minority.

Other places in the world we are considered terrorists(Suadi Arabia), and have been murdered in broad daylight (prominently in Pakistan). or we have been jailed for even questioning the existence of god(Indonesia)

 

[Cacotopia]

How's that working out for you? How long have you been doing it? Have you come to the conclusion that it's a complete waste of time, yet? If not, you will.

If society in general took that attitude we would still be in the bronze age. Why try to make anything better?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Over the last 22 years or so I've been for the most part pretty active on forums like this, religious forums, and I've noticed something over the last decade. I see it here as well. The predominate participant in religious discussion are irreligious. Outspoken or militant skeptics of the Bible and spirituality. Now I understand that my message tends to alienate everyone, believer and unbeliever alike, and truth be told I prefer discussions with atheist because they are more practical than the average believer, who is idealistic IMO, so I'm not complaining, but I am of the opinion that the reason for this is that the believer is quite comfortable in America, but the atheist (in one form or another, I use the term skeptic) is a somewhat repressed minority, politically and socially.

Do you think there is any truth to that?

In the US, I'll say it depends on state. South and mid-states are christian oriented. NY not so much because of diversity. I dont know the outer banks. Virginia, where I live, youd think we are similar. We're more christian than we think.

As for atheist vs believer (here that means christian), thats rare. Id say most atheist dont say they are for political reasons. Im an atheist and live in an immediate christian enviornment, and to tell you honestly most christians dont care. Our (a lot of atheist) comfort level religiously is around politics. Believers are either ignorant of the affects of their faith or dont care how their religion treats people in present day as a whole.

I think its political when comfort level is concerned. Im more close to the city and people, the further you go out of the bible belt, people just dont care.

 

[PureX]

We are living in a time of 'run-amok' condemnation.

As our collective greed is slowly and inexorably destroying everything we hoped for and believe in, we are all freaking out, and pointing fingers. Mostly at each other because we know it's our own fault, collectively, but none of us wants to admit responsibility, individually. And the people working hardest in the service of greed are doing all they can to keep the blame-game going, because it makes for an excellent distraction while the whole world burns to the ground.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, that's the Bush / Chaney administration and Israel. Fake Christians and Jews.



No, again, those are politically minded atheists.



Yes and no respectively.

I am impressed. Any Christians or theists for that matter that disagrees with you are "Fake Christians and Jews". You do realize that it was Muslims, oh wait, Fake Muslims that flew the planes into the WTC don't you? Or have you gone all the way over to tin foil hat country?

 

[David T]

What is a militant skeptic?

Do they fly planes into buildings?
Do they set off bombs at arenas or on trains?
Do they intimidate women and shoot doctors at female health clinics?

Revoltingest certainly does I know that's a fact. He's gone this week its throw Rev under the bus week!!!!

 

[Earthling]

I am impressed. Any Christians or theists for that matter that disagrees with you are "Fake Christians and Jews". You do realize that it was Muslims, oh wait, Fake Muslims that flew the planes into the WTC don't you? Or have you gone all the way over to tin foil hat country?

As I mentioned earlier I have had wonderful discussions with both believers and non believers who strongly disagree with me. I respect their opinions, beliefs, and the methodology they've used to reach their conclusions. That's what it is all about for me, not the conclusions themselves which I disagree with.

By fake Christians and Jews I mean people who pretend to be Christian or Jew and really are not. Like Constantine The Great, or Sabbatai Zevi.

The so called Muslims who allegedly flew planes into the WTC were CIA assets who were witnessed drinking alcohol, wearing jewelry, visiting prostitutes, and using cocaine. Not your typical Muslim practice. Most of them have been proven to still be alive.

Now, I'm not going to wear a tin foil hat, at least, not sober, but didn't science tell you anything about cell phones not being able to be used on jet planes traveling at high speeds and altitude in the time period, or building falling at free fall speed from minor fires, announced 20 minutes before the fact according to the BBC?

 

[Subduction Zone]

As I mentioned earlier I have had wonderful discussions with both believers and non believers who strongly disagree with me. I respect their opinions, beliefs, and the methodology they've used to reach their conclusions. That's what it is all about for me, not the conclusions themselves which I disagree with.

By fake Christians and Jews I mean people who pretend to be Christian or Jew and really are not. Like Constantine The Great, or Sabbatai Zevi.

The so called Muslims who allegedly flew planes into the WTC were CIA assets who were witnessed drinking alcohol, wearing jewelry, visiting prostitutes, and using cocaine. Not your typical Muslim practice. Most of them have been proven to still be alive.

Now, I'm not going to wear a tin foil hat, at least, not sober, but didn't science tell you anything about cell phones not being able to be used on jet planes traveling at high speeds and altitude in the time period, or building falling at free fall speed from minor fires, announced 20 minutes before the fact according to the BBC?

Please It is far beyond "allegedly" and no, none of them survived.

My question is what drives a person to hate his fellow man so that he falsely accuses others of grand conspiracies. Do you have an explanation?

 

[ChristineM]

Please It is far beyond "allegedly" and no, none of them survived.

My question is what drives a person to hate his fellow man so that he falsely accuses others of grand conspiracies. Do you have an explanation?

True christian?

 

[Jumi]

Over the last 22 years or so I've been for the most part pretty active on forums like this, religious forums, and I've noticed something over the last decade. I see it here as well. The predominate participant in religious discussion are irreligious. Outspoken or militant skeptics of the Bible and spirituality.

Since you use "militant" as something else than actual militants, sometimes the "militants" are also Christians, Muslims or whathaveyou that have negative ideas about something they want to criticize.

Now I understand that my message tends to alienate everyone, believer and unbeliever alike, and truth be told I prefer discussions with atheist because they are more practical than the average believer, who is idealistic IMO, so I'm not complaining, but I am of the opinion that the reason for this is that the believer is quite comfortable in America, but the atheist (in one form or another, I use the term skeptic) is a somewhat repressed minority, politically and socially.

Some atheists are more reasonable than average, some aren't. People tend to judge the whole group with large brush so it's good that you're not doing that.

Do you think there is any truth to that?

Atheists are quite overrepresented, but so are seekers and us "mystics". There's always some flux with people becoming atheists or becoming theists here. Of course there are other people that are overrepresented too, I think there are or at least were more pagans and smaller religions also. Lots of them left though or have been quiet.

 

[Subduction Zone]

True christian?

I seriously have no clue. I guess he gets to determine who is a "True christian" or not.