Angela Carini ‘wants to apologise’ to Imane Khelif

[Godobeyer]

Hello All
I think lot of people owe an apology to Imane.
Here in Algeria,are very upset about attacking Imane Khelif in media.mocking her.
why don't put the blame on, The theory of evolution (just kiddiong)?

Italian boxer Angela Carini says she “wants to apologise” to Imane Khelif for how she handled the moments after their controversial bout at the Olympics and “would embrace her” if she saw her again.

Angela Carini ‘wants to apologise’ to Imane Khelif after controversial Olympic fight

Carini abandoned the bout after just 46 seconds and afterwards refused to hug or shake the hand of Khelif, who failed a gender eligibility test at last year’s Boxing World Championship

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Kathryn]

Well, personally I feel very sorry for Imane Khelif in some ways.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Hello All
I think lot of people owe an apology to imane.
Here in Algeria,are very upset about attacking Imane Khelif in media.mocking her.
why don't put the blame on, The theory of evolution ?

Italian boxer Angela Carini says she “wants to apologise” to Imane Khelif for how she handled the moments after their controversial bout at the Olympics and “would embrace her” if she saw her again.

Angela Carini ‘wants to apologise’ to Imane Khelif after controversial Olympic fight

Carini abandoned the bout after just 46 seconds and afterwards refused to hug or shake the hand of Khelif, who failed a gender eligibility test at last year’s Boxing World Championship

www.independent.co.uk

What does the theory of evolution got to do with it?

 

[Godobeyer]

What does the theory of evolution got to do with it?

Just kidding ,in manner mutation.nothing serious

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just kidding ,in manner mutation.nothing serious

It is not even a mutation. One thing that most people do not realize is that we all start out "female". Something happened to the development of Khelif in the womb and she did not develop as here genes would normally have it go. She has Swyer's Syndrome also called XY,46 complete gonadal dysgenesis. She has a vagina, a uterus, and probably even fallopian tubes. But she has no ovaries. Without a DNA test it is very hard to tell them from women except for the fact that they do not go through puberty.

Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics

Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Explore symptoms, inheritance, genetics of this condition.

medlineplus.gov

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well, personally I feel very sorry for Imane Khelif in some ways.

Truth be told her boxing should have made her insanely popular and a major superstar in the boxing world.

Unfortunately wokeism really hurt her career given how people reacted.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Unfortunately wokeism really hurt h

Yes, woke, not misogyny.

 

[Kathryn]

Like I said, I feel sorry for her in many ways, but I don't see how it can be helped. Just run the genetic/hormone test on her along with everyone else. It can't be that difficult.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Like I said, I feel sorry for her in many ways, but I don't see how it can be helped. Just run the genetic/hormone test on her along with everyone else. It can't be that difficult.

Is she refusing testing? Or someone else refusing to make testing available?

 

[Kathryn]

Is she refusing testing? Or someone else refusing to make testing available?

I don't know.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I don't know.

For me that would be the common sense way to settle the matter once and for all.

 

[Kathryn]

I haven't read anywhere that she's refusing testing, though I would for sure if all my fellow teammates weren't tested as well as me. Like I have been saying, I feel sorry for her in many ways.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Like I said, I feel sorry for her in many ways, but I don't see how it can be helped. Just run the genetic/hormone test on her along with everyone else. It can't be that difficult.

I am glad that you have the humanity to recognize that what's happened to her is not her fault, and for that, we should all have some sympathy.

I have no answers for how to deal with this sort of thing. Genetic @Subduction Zone provided the best summary of what's gone on in her body, and absolutely none of it is her fault. She grew up with the external accoutrements of a female, and it's how she identifies. She took an interest in the sport of boxing -- as many do. But something about her genetics and gene expression has made her different from most females -- and from most men! What is she supposed to do?

Like I said, this is not a criticism of what you said -- I have no answer. I just care when life gets unfair (as it so often does). That's the idealist in me -- I want everything to be fair. (It's probably genetic! )

 

[Watchmen]

It’s a tough situation. The 2023 blood test by the IBC most likely had her XY. Not sure there’s a right answer.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It’s a tough situation. The 2023 blood test by the IBC most likely had her XY. Not sure there’s a right answer.

The IBC also lost their accreditation in the eyes of the IOC with that action. They essentially change the rules in the middle of a competition and kicked out Khelif and one other. Nor were their actions ever justified. That was why the IOC stripped them as being a governing body.

 

[Watchmen]

The IBC also lost their accreditation in the eyes of the IOC with that action. They essentially change the rules in the middle of a competition and kicked out Khelif and one other. Nor were their actions ever justified. That was why the IOC stripped them as being a governing body.

There’s historically a lot of drama between the IOC and IBC. It’s complex.

 

[Godobeyer]

Truth be told her boxing should have made her insanely popular and a major superstar in the boxing world.

Unfortunately wokeism really hurt her career given how people reacted.

I watch many Western, youtuber and tik toker,and comments, insulting and mocking.

 

[Kathryn]

I am glad that you have the humanity to recognize that what's happened to her is not her fault, and for that, we should all have some sympathy.

I have no answers for how to deal with this sort of thing. Genetic @Subduction Zone provided the best summary of what's gone on in her body, and absolutely none of it is her fault. She grew up with the external accoutrements of a female, and it's how she identifies. She took an interest in the sport of boxing -- as many do. But something about her genetics and gene expression has made her different from most females -- and from most men! What is she supposed to do?

Like I said, this is not a criticism of what you said -- I have no answer. I just care when life gets unfair (as it so often does). That's the idealist in me -- I want everything to be fair. (It's probably genetic! )

Oh and before she boxed she played football. I don't know how many years that was.

 

[SDavis]

Hello All
I think lot of people owe an apology to Imane.
Here in Algeria,are very upset about attacking Imane Khelif in media.mocking her.
why don't put the blame on, The theory of evolution (just kiddiong)?

Italian boxer Angela Carini says she “wants to apologise” to Imane Khelif for how she handled the moments after their controversial bout at the Olympics and “would embrace her” if she saw her again.

Angela Carini ‘wants to apologise’ to Imane Khelif after controversial Olympic fight

Carini abandoned the bout after just 46 seconds and afterwards refused to hug or shake the hand of Khelif, who failed a gender eligibility test at last year’s Boxing World Championship

www.independent.co.uk

IBA is giving her $50,000 and $25,000 to her managers so she is probably quite happy right now and if it wasn't for Khelif she wouldn't be receiving that money.

And the question should be if they have high levels of testosterone should a woman with high levels of male testosterone which not only supports the male sexual drive but it also supports his muscles and strength be fighting in none professional competition a female with natural levels of testosterone?

Explaining the Olympic boxing controversy: What are the gender rules, tests and why

The boxing controversy in the Olympics has become a talking point for several days in the wake of Algerian boxer Imane Khelif's first bout, followed by Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan's first meet. But much misinformation has spread in wake of the initial moment, with Khelif and Yu-ting being...

www.nbcchicago.com

The INTERNATIONAL BOXING ASSOCIATION denied them rights to fight other women for reasons not given but they felt those two had an unfair advantage. They commented no testosterone test was given but would not release the information why.

Statement made by the International Boxing Association regarding Athletes Disqualifications in World Boxing Championships 2023

As stated, the International Boxing Association (IBA) feels it appropriate at this prevalent time, to address recent media statements regarding those athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif, particularly regarding their participation in the Paris Olympic Games 2024. We wish to make ...

www.iba.sport

How did they fail the gender test? The Olympics did not apply one.

IBA spars with IOC over eligibility of Olympic boxers who failed gender tests

The International Boxing Association fired back at the International Olympic Committee on Thursday over its defense of two boxers deemed to have male chromosomes.

www.foxnews.com

Sex verification in sports - Wikipedia

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[Godobeyer]

IBA is giving her $50,000 and $25,000 to her managers so she is probably quite happy right now and if it wasn't for Khelif she wouldn't be receiving that money.

And the question should be if they have high levels of testosterone should a woman with high levels of male testosterone which not only supports the male sexual drive but it also supports his muscles and strength be fighting in none professional competition a female with natural levels of testosterone?

Explaining the Olympic boxing controversy: What are the gender rules, tests and why

The boxing controversy in the Olympics has become a talking point for several days in the wake of Algerian boxer Imane Khelif's first bout, followed by Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan's first meet. But much misinformation has spread in wake of the initial moment, with Khelif and Yu-ting being...

www.nbcchicago.com

The INTERNATIONAL BOXING ASSOCIATION denied them rights to fight other women for reasons not given but they felt those two had an unfair advantage. They commented no testosterone test was given but would not release the information why.

Statement made by the International Boxing Association regarding Athletes Disqualifications in World Boxing Championships 2023

As stated, the International Boxing Association (IBA) feels it appropriate at this prevalent time, to address recent media statements regarding those athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif, particularly regarding their participation in the Paris Olympic Games 2024. We wish to make ...

www.iba.sport

How did they fail the gender test? The Olympics did not apply one.

IBA spars with IOC over eligibility of Olympic boxers who failed gender tests

The International Boxing Association fired back at the International Olympic Committee on Thursday over its defense of two boxers deemed to have male chromosomes.

www.foxnews.com

Sex verification in sports - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

It's about gender male/female or testosterone or both?
Since when testosterone is becoming sport condition ?
So probably next time, LGBT is included

By giving her that price, i don't doubt it's planned.
Mean,make a scene cry, don't fight, and we will give you money.