Another maskless rally by Trump -- as the crisis continues to worsen

[Evangelicalhumanist]

There he is, in Georgia, crowds and crowds of apparently utterly stupid Americans huddled together, shouting and screaming, maskless -- trying to overflow another hospital by all appearance.

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[Subduction Zone]

There he is, in Georgia, crowds and crowds of apparently utterly stupid Americans huddled together, shouting and screaming, maskless -- trying to overflow another hospital by all appearance.

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He may be eliminating his own base. With record number of cases right now they have to be spreading it among themselves whenever there is such a rally.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

He may be eliminating his own base. With record number of cases right now they have to be spreading it among themselves whenever there is such a rally.

Then I finally say it --- Go, Trump, Go!

 

[Twilight Hue]

There he is, in Georgia, crowds and crowds of apparently utterly stupid Americans huddled together, shouting and screaming, maskless -- trying to overflow another hospital by all appearance.

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Look at it this way.

Its none of your business what other people do. ;0]

 

[Quintessence]

In discussions I've seen about vaccine prioritization, a very compelling case can be made for starting vaccinations with those who are most likely to be super spreaders, not those who are in high risk groups. That is, you start with the young and the stupid (after vaccinating front-line medical care workers) and then go from there.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Look at it this way.

Its none of your business what other people do. ;0]

Actually, you know, that is not true. Especially when they do it publicly. Wanna keep your secrets to yourself? Don't do them in front of TV cameras.

And let me also say, when I see someone endangering the lives of others, or endangering the state itself -- it is very, very much my business. There was a time when New Yorkers used to just walk over the bodies in the streets, and ignore the women being raped in alleyways. I'm hoping humans have improved slightly since then.

 

[Twilight Hue]

There he is, in Georgia, crowds and crowds of apparently utterly stupid Americans huddled together, shouting and screaming, maskless -- trying to overflow another hospital by all appearance.

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Oh, by the way, its seems Democrats are the first truly hypocritical humans.

13 prominent Democrats stand accused of hypocrisy for ignoring COVID-19 restrictions they're urging their constituents to obey

 

[Subduction Zone]

Look at it this way.

Its none of your business what other people do. ;0]

Wrong. When it comes to spreading disease the acts of the immature and careless affect others. Normally people have a right to do what they want. But that is not the case when there is a pandemic going on.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh, by the way, its seems Democrats are the first truly hypocritical humans.

13 prominent Democrats stand accused of hypocrisy for ignoring COVID-19 restrictions they're urging their constituents to obey

I am sorry, but that is just stupid. You are basing this claim on cherry picking. Yes, there are Democrats that will not follow proper procedures. They are not the norm. Unfortunately that is not the case with Republicans. When your leader does not advocate that people follow precautions far less of the followers will.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Actually, you know, that is not true. Especially when they do it publicly. Wanna keep your secrets to yourself? Don't do them in front of TV cameras.

And let me also say, when I see someone endangering the lives of others, or endangering the state itself -- it is very, very much my business. There was a time when New Yorkers used to just walk over the bodies in the streets, and ignore the women being raped in alleyways. I'm hoping humans have improved slightly since then.

Well I may agree masks ought to be employed in crowds. I was just parroting the sentiment of how people might feel about busy bodies, but your right, I dont think its true personally.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Wrong. When it comes to spreading disease the acts of the immature and careless affect others. Normally people have a right to do what they want. But that is not the case when there is a pandemic going on.

And Donald Trump is presently engaged in, and has been for some time, spreading a disease that is doing enormous damage to the American nation, and many, many people in it.

And tragically, the ever-so-sweet @Twilight Hue appears to think that's a pretty darn fine thing. You cannot imagine how that saddens me. And @Twilight Hue seems unable to fathom why I'd even give a crap, since he/she/it doesn't.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I am sorry, but that is just stupid. You are basing this claim on cherry picking. Yes, there are Democrats that will not follow proper procedures. They are not the norm. Unfortunately that is not the case with Republicans. When your leader does not advocate that people follow precautions far less of the followers will.

You got to stop defending these people. Just a suggestion givin how they themselves are prime examples of hypocrisy by their own doing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You got to stop defending these people. Just a suggestion givin how they themselves are prime examples of hypocrisy by their own doing.

I was not defending them.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Oh, by the way, its seems Democrats are the first truly hypocritical humans.

13 prominent Democrats stand accused of hypocrisy for ignoring COVID-19 restrictions they're urging their constituents to obey

I do not judge everybody by the actions of a few. I have certainly acted hypocritically myself, in the course of my life. I'm human. I'm imperfect. I make mistakes.

But I have never, ever in my life deliberately put thousands at immediate risk, and tens of thousands of those they go home to at secondary risk.

And that is what Trump is doing right this very minute.

 

[Windwalker]

He may be eliminating his own base. With record number of cases right now they have to be spreading it among themselves whenever there is such a rally.

Just remember what Hitler wanted to do to his own people following his defeat when his little narcissistic self could not face the humiliation: Nero Decree - Wikipedia.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

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Okay, maybe that was overreach. Not Republicans, just Republican Trump rabid fans.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And Donald Trump is presently engaged in, and has been for some time, spreading a disease that is doing enormous damage to the American nation, and many, many people in it.

And tragically, the ever-so-sweet @Twilight Hue appears to think that's a pretty darn fine thing. You cannot imagine how that saddens me. And @Twilight Hue seems unable to fathom why I'd even give a crap, since he/she/it doesn't.

Do you blame them? Look at how they are being treated by being railroaded out of their businesses and means of support without so much as any type of bailout to keep them afloat throughout all this. They are being systematically destroyed.

Yes you want to protect the public, but you don't go about it by being punitive and disrespectful of all the hard work people do to in order to make their dreams and ambitions possible. A lot are convinced those in power are out to destroy everything they had, and lets face it, your going to make people angry beyond belief to the point of rebellion.

 

[dybmh]

Look at it this way.

Its none of your business what other people do. ;0]

FYI, here's a study from Germany that shows wearing a mask matters.

"Assessing the credibility of the various estimates, we conclude that face masks reduce the daily growth rate of reported infections by around 47%."

Face masks considerably reduce COVID-19 cases in Germany

As he hospitals become overwhelmed. not wearing a mask attending a crowded rally does indeed matter. It could result in the hospital not being able to respond to heart attacks and other emergency health procedures.

I'm not sure why you would take a hands-off position when the result of super-spreading a deadly virus affects access to health care for everyone.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Do you blame them? Look at how they are being treated by being railroaded out of their businesses and means of support without so much as any type of bailout to keep them afloat throughout all this. They are being systematically destroyed.

Yes you want to protect the public, but you don't go about it by being punitive and disrespectful of all the hard work people do to in order to make their dreams and ambitions possible. A lot are convinced those in power are out to destroy everything they had, and lets face it, your going to make people angry beyond belief to the point of rebellion.

Look, I completely understand the point you are making here -- and more than that, I agree with it. This is hugely unfair, and a lot of people are suffering -- more than even you can imagine. When individuals and small business can't afford to pay their rent, the landlords suffer, too. I get that. When bars and restaurants and small stores can't open, but big box stores can (that's happening right now where I live), little guys suffer big time -- including the customers with nowhere to go -- while the rich owners of the big boxes just get richer.

I get it.

The problem is, it comes down to ordinary folks like us. If we all followed the simple rules -- ALL OF THE TIME -- very little of this would have been necessary. Where I live, stores and restaurants and bars obeyed every rule -- they reduced the numbers allowed in their premises, they insisted on masks, they paid for hand sanitizers, they put up plexiglass barriers between customers and staff. They were shut down because ordinary people simply would not follow those simple rules, and government can't figure out how else to control it.

And that's the issue -- government can't control it. Only we can. And for that, we have to want to. That's all I've been trying to say to you.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Effing cult of the individual.

You wouldn't expect this from people who call themselves Christian.