Another School Shooting

[Revoltingest]

Just because I may soon be in a position to change my name from oldbadger to oddball don't mean that we Brits are emasculated by our wish to seek for a more organised and safe society.
You can't have safety and security without some loss of freedom, but imagine being able to go out to work, shopping, for a walk etc without having to even think about protection against ........... folks with guns.

You like what works in your society, but I don't buy the notion that your strategy would work in ours, especially since it would run counter to our law. You prefer security & order to our more anarchistic approach. Well, good for you....& good for us. Let us each work to improve our societies in our own ways.

We're not angry because we can't have a gun, because we can have a gun..... but first we have to show clean criminal record, genuine need or use, somewhere to use it, a secure safe to keepit in, blah blahh..... so we're not jealous of your guns, most of us probably think it's weird that you need them so much.
Your earlier description of several acquaintances having discharged guns at people, and many acquaintances having brandished them at people 'paints' a picture of a level of social insanity and hysteria which many folks would probably laugh at. I'm not laughing, I think it's sad.
You all need help with this....... just saying.

You're sad....then angry (betrayed by histrionics about conflating sex & guns)....then lusting for security. I understand this. But I don't want it for Amricastan.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't expect that too many Germans like the word. Best we call them Germans, and our Brit forces have gone into battle with Germans beside us since those days. Germans are our allies. What your fathers did beside our fathers..... all happened a long time ago.
We cannot wear their medals, so let's not try to.

Well, since I'm part Hun, I urge caution with our kind. But consider that I use the hstorical term metaphorically (not because the threat is specifically the Bundeswehr). A strong culture of self defense might serve you well some day.

President Obama did his very best for a better and safer society (in the future) by better gun control now. Don't take it away from him.
Really, you might reconsider ......... he has been returned to office through your democratic system, and he has not been involved in personal disgrace, scandal, crimes, adultery, lies,..... in fact he's rather unusual ...........

You find him honest, I see a different picture, ie, just another politician who will say anything which serves a purpose, not that which he believes. And perhaps he did his 'best' with gun legislation.....that is one of the problems.

 

[Apex]

We're not discussing existing laws, are we..... we're discussing that school shootings just keep on recurring...... we're discussing the need for better regulation and control, and you do not have very good regs........

We (most members) were in moderate agreement over the need for CRC's, Quals, Home safes, Insurance, etc etc before the member came in with 'I don't take you seriously .....' a trolling post which needed a tough reply.

It's a sad sad fact that your children are not safe....... not even at home, let alone at school.

What rules and laws do you have aconcerning keeping firearms and guns in your homes? Let's see what you really know.........

To have a productive conversation about useful, and needed, gun laws, it helps to make sure you are educated on existing gun laws. Otherwise you wind up with posts like post 103.

 

[Revoltingest]

To have a productive conversation about useful, and needed, gun laws, it helps to make sure you are educated on existing gun laws. Otherwise you wind up with posts like post 103.

It further makes gun ownership about slavery & sexual fetish. This inhibits reasoned discussion about gun use, rights & regulation.

Edit: Ya know I'm just poke'n fun at you, OldBadgie. It's OK to occasionally stray into tinfoil hat territory. I know you'll return to the common ground we so often find.

 

[Father Heathen]

Since you refuse to educate yourself on US gun laws, why should we believe your opinions on the actions of our President are any more informed or trustworthy?

Right. An uninformed opinion is a worthless one, and it's a shame that willful ignorance coupled with an emotional knee-jerk reaction toward the subject prevents them from examining it objectively and having a civil, rational discussion about it.

 

[oldbadger]

You like what works in your society, but I don't buy the notion that your strategy would work in ours, especially since it would run counter to our law. You prefer security & order to our more anarchistic approach. Well, good for you....& good for us. Let us each work to improve our societies in our own ways.

Wow........ !! Our? ...... Anarchistic approach?
My God..... I'll have that.......
Let's have a look at what that means...,....

1. Full Definition of ANARCHY. 1 a : absence of government. b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority. c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government.

Now why didn't you just tell us all this in the very first place? So you don't actually want any control over weapons at all? You don't want a United States under Federal control at all?

So it doesn't matter how many school shootings occur, you don't actually support any State or Gov Legislation about guns?

At last..........

Mind you, you didn't say 'Liberal approach', you said 'Anarchistic approach'. The truth will 'out',
Thank God we've cleared that up.

 

[oldbadger]

To have a productive conversation about useful, and needed, gun laws, it helps to make sure you are educated on existing gun laws. Otherwise you wind up with posts like post 103.

.....what laugh....
Productive conversation?
Like you ever intended to discuss sensible provisions for gun-control ........ ever!
I don't think you have a clue about Federal or State's gun laws. No idea...... No interest?

 

[oldbadger]

Right. An uninformed opinion is a worthless one, and it's a shame that willful ignorance coupled with an emotional knee-jerk reaction toward the subject prevents them from examining it objectively and having a civil, rational discussion about it.

,,,,another rant......

 

[oldbadger]

The shooter must have not known it was a pistol free zone.

2 confirmed dead, several critically injured in shooting at Washington state high school | Fox News

Posts on the last couple of pages will tell you everything that you need to know about real reactions to 'school shootings'

Wasn't this the State that was just made to free up it's gun laws under Federal law, and some members applauded that?

Please Thread the next incident, because in the UK we don't hear of them always....... they don't always make news any more. :yes:

I'm done here..................

 

[Revoltingest]

Wow........ !! Our? ...... Anarchistic approach?
My God..... I'll have that.......
Let's have a look at what that means...,....

1. Full Definition of ANARCHY. 1 a : absence of government. b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority. c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government.

Now why didn't you just tell us all this in the very first place? So you don't actually want any control over weapons at all? You don't want a United States under Federal control at all?

Please re-read the phrase "more anarchistic". This would mean our approach is more in the direction of anarchy than yours, ie, more personal autonomy with less government control....not complete anarchy.

So it doesn't matter how many school shootings occur, you don't actually support any State or Gov Legislation about guns?
At last..........
Mind you, you didn't say 'Liberal approach', you said 'Anarchistic approach'. The truth will 'out',
Thank God we've cleared that up.

Your inference is incorrect...is this by mistake, or are you merely being sarcastic?

 

[McBell]

Wow........ !! Our? ...... Anarchistic approach?
My God..... I'll have that.......
Let's have a look at what that means...,....

1. Full Definition of ANARCHY. 1 a : absence of government. b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority. c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government.

Now why didn't you just tell us all this in the very first place? So you don't actually want any control over weapons at all? You don't want a United States under Federal control at all?

So it doesn't matter how many school shootings occur, you don't actually support any State or Gov Legislation about guns?

At last..........

Mind you, you didn't say 'Liberal approach', you said 'Anarchistic approach'. The truth will 'out',
Thank God we've cleared that up.

Thank you for so thoroughly demonstrating my point.

 

[Father Heathen]

,,,,another rant......

How is that a "rant"? I'm not the one who's throwing a spastic fit.