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Anti-Islamic Sentiment on RF

Ozzie

Ozzie

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not4me said:
Consenting adults can do a lot of things in private like incest. This won't prevent from viewing them as immoral and unacceptable practices. And if it was private, so how would any one know about this? So adultery and sodomy inside a dark closed room is none of the society's business, this is something between them (the sinners) and God but when it comes outside, this is a different story.
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Have a look at this:
The dancing boys of Afghanistan | World news | The Guardian

The Taliban and International troop presence have a common objective in eliminating this public scourge.
 
Storm

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
301ouncer said:
You see the problem one vice leads to another. Till no one is safe: A rollercoster of vice.
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Bull ****! The fact that you can't grasp the concept of consenting adults says nothing about homosexuality, only you.
 
monta

monta

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Are we making a league of rape by country and religion, how intelligent, helpful and insightful :sarcastic
 
301ouncer

301ouncer

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I do not think you understand. Once the vice become the norm it will lead eventually to branches of painfull vices perpetrated against venrable civilians.
 
Storm

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
301ouncer said:
I do not think you understand. Once the vice become the norm it will lead eventually to branches of painfull vices perpetrated against venrable civilians.
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No, it won't. I understand you fine, you're just wrong.
 
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Sahar

Well-Known Member
Ozzie said:
What does rape have to with homosexuality, have to do with Islam, have to do with what is committed in the private sphere v public?
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Is this your meaningful reply to the relevance of your link to my post? :sarcastic Or are you implying that your link was irrelevant?!!
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
301ouncer said:
You see the problem one vice leads to another. Till no one is safe: A rollercoster of vice. Very painful to the victims and their families.
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Islam actually leads to far more rape with it's misogyny, victim blaming, and oppression and subjugation of women.
 
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Sahar

Well-Known Member
Storm said:
No, it won't. I understand you fine, you're just wrong.
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Why? Isn't this the product of the Western culture? Why the rape rate is so high in a country like the US? There must be something in the American culture that leads to this number of rapes and rapists. Don't you think? :rolleyes: ;)
 
Storm

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
not4me said:
Why? Isn't this the product of the Western culture? Why the rape rate is so high in a country like the US? There must be something in the American culture that leads to this number of rapes and rapists. Don't you think? :rolleyes: ;)
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Maybe our numbers are "high" because women can report being raped without being flogged for it.
 
301ouncer

301ouncer

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Storm said:
Maybe our numbers are "high" because women can report being raped without being flogged for it.
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You think muslim woman are like the teenagers in the street of the west? They do not have fathers, brothers, tribes, families that do not care about them?

For them to keep quite and silent on rape and abuse? what planet am I living on?

You are very much wrong in this.

Our woman are very much looked after. Respected, honored, loved, cared for, the same goes to our daughters and are greatful for this caring and love. We do not leave them in the streets to be abused openly.
 
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Hevenly Heathen

Hevenly Heathen

Seeker
Father Heathen said:
Islam actually leads to far more rape with it's misogyny, victim blaming, and oppression and subjugation of women.
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Not true. Clever, witty, driven, selfish, corrupt, manipulative, sly, sneaky people who can argue their way out with loop holes cause rape, or rape regardless of such rules. Islam does not grant the right to rape. Nor does any other institution.
 
maro

maro

muslimah
Father Heathen said:
But once it's known, it's okay to torture and murder them despite the fact they haven't hurt or harmed anyone? See, it's that thirst for blood that the civilized world looks down upon.
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instead of torture and murder ,i would say 'punish '.....a punishment that is already well known previously for everyone....and not kept a secret.....and thus can simply be avoided by restraining from the punishable act in that particular scoiety or by leaving to another place allowing it

as for the 'harm' argument...i guess it's relative...i believe practcing sodomy to be harmful to the individual practing it....and avowing this practice in the scoiety is both harmful..and on the long run..destructive to the whole society

The point is , I will not succed in convincing you with my point of view...and certainly you won't convince me with yours regarding the ' harm ' it causes ,simply because we don't speak the same langauge

I speak the language of islam which is a spiritual civilization based on both reason and revealation...and you speak the materialisitc language that neither believes in god ,nor in the spirit

So i see fit that we agree to disagree on what is harmful and what is not..as long as we don't impose our world views on one another....let the estimation of the 'harm' to muslims in their societies...and we will let it for you in your societies
 
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