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Anti-monotheism as a religion

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Hi @LuisDantas

Its hard to drop in on this thread and explain the last few thousand years of religious history leading up to this moment. To complicate matters we speak different languages. I speak the language of an Abrahamic paradigm. I'm also slowly learning the language of a Dharmic paradigm which is the way you tend to think. With these limitations in mind lets consider some key issues.



The Baha'i Faith uses the phrase 'Manifestation of God' in relation to nine known religious revelations:

The nine religions to which you have referred include both the Bábí and the Bahá'í Dispensations, Bahá'u'lláh being the ninth Prophet in the series. The other Prophets included are Zoroaster, Krishna, Moses, the Christ, Muhammad, Buddha, the Prophet of the Sabaeans Whose name is unrecorded

Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster and Related Subjects


Manifestations of God | What Bahá’ís Believe



Each of these Great Beings revealed both eternal truth (Dharma) and transient laws and principles that were only applicable to the age for which they were revealed. We all have some capacity to access some of these truths or spiritual principles but not nearly to the same degree as the Manifestations. That's why we need these Manifestations individually and collectively. Otherwise we can lose our way. So as humans we are expected to recognise the Manifestations, including the most recent One and follow their Teachings.

The implications are enormous as you have quite rightly highlighted.



Hope that helps.:)
"The Baha'i Faith uses the phrase 'Manifestation of God' in relation to nine known religious revelations" Unquote.

What words did Bahaullah himself use for this term "Manifestation of God" in his original writing, in Arabic or Persian whatever, please? Kindly quote from Kitab-i-Iqan, please.

Regards
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
What words did Bahaullah himself use for this term "Manifestation of God" in his original writing, in Arabic or Persian whatever, please? Kindly quote from Kitab-i-Iqan, please.

This is one quote from the Kitab-i-iquan;

"....From these statements therefore it hath been made evident and manifest that should a Soul in the “End that knoweth no end” be made manifest, and arise to proclaim and uphold a Cause which in “the Beginning that hath no beginning” another Soul had proclaimed and upheld, it can be truly declared of Him Who is the Last and of Him Who was the First that they are one and the same, inasmuch as both are the Exponents of one and the same Cause. For this reason, hath the Point of the Bayán—may the life of all else but Him be His sacrifice!—likened the Manifestations of God unto the sun which, though it rise from the “Beginning that hath no beginning” until the “End that knoweth no end,” is none the less the same sun. Now, wert thou to say, that this sun is the former sun, thou speakest the truth; and if thou sayest that this sun is the “return” of that sun, thou also speakest the truth. Likewise, from this statement it is made evident that the term “last” is applicable to the “first,” and the term “first” applicable to the “last;” inasmuch as both the “first” and the “last” have risen to proclaim one and the same Faith.

Notwithstanding the obviousness of this theme, in the eyes of those that have quaffed the wine of knowledge and certitude, yet how many are those who, through failure to understand its meaning, have allowed the term “Seal of the Prophets” to obscure their understanding, and deprive them of the grace of all His manifold bounties! Hath not Muḥammad, Himself, declared: “I am all the Prophets?” Hath He not said as We have already mentioned: “I am Adam, Noah, Moses, and Jesus?” Why should Muḥammad, that immortal Beauty, Who hath said: “I am the first Adam” be incapable of saying also: “I am the last Adam”? For even as He regarded Himself to be the “First of the Prophets”—that is Adam—in like manner, the “Seal of the Prophets” is also applicable unto that Divine Beauty. It is admittedly obvious that being the “First of the Prophets,” He likewise is their “Seal.”...."

There are numerous references in this Tablet.

Regards Tony
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
'Manifestation of God' Unquote.
What words did Bahaullah himself use for this term in his original writing, in Arabic or Persian whatever, please?
Any other person from Bahaism people or Non-Bahaism people, please.
Regards
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
What words did Bahaullah himself use for this term "Manifestation of God" in his original writing, in Arabic or Persian whatever, please? Kindly quote from Kitab-i-Iqan, please.
This is one quote from the Kitab-i-iquan;

"....From these statements therefore it hath been made evident and manifest that should a Soul in the “End that knoweth no end” be made manifest, and arise to proclaim and uphold a Cause which in “the Beginning that hath no beginning” another Soul had proclaimed and upheld, it can be truly declared of Him Who is the Last and of Him Who was the First that they are one and the same, inasmuch as both are the Exponents of one and the same Cause. For this reason, hath the Point of the Bayán—may the life of all else but Him be His sacrifice!—likened the Manifestations of God unto the sun which, though it rise from the “Beginning that hath no beginning” until the “End that knoweth no end,” is none the less the same sun. Now, wert thou to say, that this sun is the former sun, thou speakest the truth; and if thou sayest that this sun is the “return” of that sun, thou also speakest the truth. Likewise, from this statement it is made evident that the term “last” is applicable to the “first,” and the term “first” applicable to the “last;” inasmuch as both the “first” and the “last” have risen to proclaim one and the same Faith.

Notwithstanding the obviousness of this theme, in the eyes of those that have quaffed the wine of knowledge and certitude, yet how many are those who, through failure to understand its meaning, have allowed the term “Seal of the Prophets” to obscure their understanding, and deprive them of the grace of all His manifold bounties! Hath not Muḥammad, Himself, declared: “I am all the Prophets?” Hath He not said as We have already mentioned: “I am Adam, Noah, Moses, and Jesus?” Why should Muḥammad, that immortal Beauty, Who hath said: “I am the first Adam” be incapable of saying also: “I am the last Adam”? For even as He regarded Himself to be the “First of the Prophets”—that is Adam—in like manner, the “Seal of the Prophets” is also applicable unto that Divine Beauty. It is admittedly obvious that being the “First of the Prophets,” He likewise is their “Seal.”...."

There are numerous references in this Tablet.

Regards Tony
Sir, my question was what words were used by Bahaullah in the original Arabic and or Persian language that have been translated later as Manifestation of God, please?
It is a simple question but not yet answered, please . Right, please?

Regards
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
What words did Bahaullah himself use for this term "Manifestation of God" in his original writing, in Arabic or Persian whatever, please? Kindly quote from Kitab-i-Iqan, please.

Sir, my question was what words were used by Bahaullah in the original Arabic and or Persian language that have been translated later as Manifestation of God, please?
It is a simple question but not yet answered, please . Right, please?

Regards

Can you read those languages?

If so I have provided a link to that book and you can read that section and see what was written.

Have you read any of these works yet?

The only person I know here that may be able is @InvestigateTruth

Unless @Sen McGlinn is still posting

Regards Tony
 
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