Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Then the mind is irrelevant then. So the body is regarded as defective.
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Sand Dancer
Currently catless
I wasn't justifying anything. I know it's two different types of subject matter. You are just wrong about kids not being sexual. Sexuality does not just mean sexual interest and intercourse. Read up on it.
Having a trait you view as needing correction =/= your entire body, personhood or mind is defective.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
If I may, there is a deficit if the Dr. is deferring to the parent, and the parent is deferring to the Dr. simultaneously.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Then what is the surgery and hormones for?
Obviously something is being viewed as defective and warrants correcting.
Something being viewed as needing correcting =/= the person is defective.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. I don't buy that.
Let's put my perspective on hold for the moment.
What is the surgery hormones for if nothing is defective?
Let's say for a moment that your last heart attack deprived your brain of enough oxygenated blood that it damaged your faculties.
Are *you* defective or do you *have* a defect? And do you understand the difference between the two?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Do you just not pay attention, or is it a refusal to learn? I mean, how can you possibly reach this conclusion as often as this has been discussed unless you don't pay attention or just refuse to learn anything about the subject.
What are surgery hormones?
InChrist
Free4ever
As well as corporate entities exploiting them for long term financial profit. Follow the money and it always leads to those who are using people as commodities for financial gain.
“Follow me as I dissect the wealthy, white, technophilic elites responsible for the gender industry, identity medicine, and their motives. I discuss the influence of the techno-medical complex on LBG corporatization and the continued efforts of the gender industry to deny the genetic boundary between men and women. I discuss here the complex labyrinth of power - including collusion between global banks, non-governmental organizations, philanthropists, etc. - I detail the corporatist cult which is grooming the populace for profit and control by driving the colonization of female biology and the technological takeover of human reproduction.
The mammoth infrastructure promoting transhumanism and autogynephilia drive the disembodiment and dismembering of human beings. I speak to the insanity of celebrating castration, the death spiral we in western societies are in, and the communal solidarity on the other side of speaking the truth.”
Transhumanism and Autogynephilia
The Corporate Usurpation of Human Reproduction and Humanity
“No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
“Gender identity” ideology is not politically separate from business. Business is no longer separated from politics. We in Western cultures are governed by billionaires in finance who drive policy through our political institutions. A façade of democracy shrouds the oligarchy we live in, just like the gender performances in gender ideology shroud the capitalist profiteering from the colonization of human sex.”
Who Owns Big Pharma and the Billionaires Invested in the Gender Industry?
No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I'm not sure what you mean by "deficit" in this context, so could you explain?
Are you implying that neither is competent and thus only the government should be making the choice for them?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
OK, so you provide a link to someone's newsletter and that supposedly says it all?As well as corporate entities exploiting them for long term financial profit. Follow the money and it always leads to those who are using people as commodities for financial gain.
“Follow me as I dissect the wealthy, white, technophilic elites responsible for the gender industry, identity medicine, and their motives. I discuss the influence of the techno-medical complex on LBG corporatization and the continued efforts of the gender industry to deny the genetic boundary between men and women. I discuss here the complex labyrinth of power - including collusion between global banks, non-governmental organizations, philanthropists, etc. - I detail the corporatist cult which is grooming the populace for profit and control by driving the colonization of female biology and the technological takeover of human reproduction.
The mammoth infrastructure promoting transhumanism and autogynephilia drive the disembodiment and dismembering of human beings. I speak to the insanity of celebrating castration, the death spiral we in western societies are in, and the communal solidarity on the other side of speaking the truth.”
Transhumanism and Autogynephilia
The Corporate Usurpation of Human Reproduction and Humanity
jbilek.substack.com
“No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
“Gender identity” ideology is not politically separate from business. Business is no longer separated from politics. We in Western cultures are governed by billionaires in finance who drive policy through our political institutions. A façade of democracy shrouds the oligarchy we live in, just like the gender performances in gender ideology shroud the capitalist profiteering from the colonization of human sex.”
Who Owns Big Pharma and the Billionaires Invested in the Gender Industry?
No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
jbilek.substack.com
So, let m ask you this: In such a matter, who should be making the decision, the teen with the family & with their doctor, or is it to be the government?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It is, of course, laughably absurd to compare gender dysphoria with autogynohylia. "Lightning speed" is also just as equally absurd. "Body dissociation" is why uneducated and ignorant laymen should butt out of areas they have no understanding of, because truly it looks like you learned a few psych 101 words and are trying to sound smarter and more informed than you actually are.As well as corporate entities exploiting them for long term financial profit. Follow the money and it always leads to those who are using people as commodities for financial gain.
“Follow me as I dissect the wealthy, white, technophilic elites responsible for the gender industry, identity medicine, and their motives. I discuss the influence of the techno-medical complex on LBG corporatization and the continued efforts of the gender industry to deny the genetic boundary between men and women. I discuss here the complex labyrinth of power - including collusion between global banks, non-governmental organizations, philanthropists, etc. - I detail the corporatist cult which is grooming the populace for profit and control by driving the colonization of female biology and the technological takeover of human reproduction.
The mammoth infrastructure promoting transhumanism and autogynephilia drive the disembodiment and dismembering of human beings. I speak to the insanity of celebrating castration, the death spiral we in western societies are in, and the communal solidarity on the other side of speaking the truth.”
Transhumanism and Autogynephilia
The Corporate Usurpation of Human Reproduction and Humanity
jbilek.substack.com
“No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
“Gender identity” ideology is not politically separate from business. Business is no longer separated from politics. We in Western cultures are governed by billionaires in finance who drive policy through our political institutions. A façade of democracy shrouds the oligarchy we live in, just like the gender performances in gender ideology shroud the capitalist profiteering from the colonization of human sex.”
Who Owns Big Pharma and the Billionaires Invested in the Gender Industry?
No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
jbilek.substack.com
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Oh gimme a break.As well as corporate entities exploiting them for long term financial profit. Follow the money and it always leads to those who are using people as commodities for financial gain.
“Follow me as I dissect the wealthy, white, technophilic elites responsible for the gender industry, identity medicine, and their motives. I discuss the influence of the techno-medical complex on LBG corporatization and the continued efforts of the gender industry to deny the genetic boundary between men and women. I discuss here the complex labyrinth of power - including collusion between global banks, non-governmental organizations, philanthropists, etc. - I detail the corporatist cult which is grooming the populace for profit and control by driving the colonization of female biology and the technological takeover of human reproduction.
The mammoth infrastructure promoting transhumanism and autogynephilia drive the disembodiment and dismembering of human beings. I speak to the insanity of celebrating castration, the death spiral we in western societies are in, and the communal solidarity on the other side of speaking the truth.”
Transhumanism and Autogynephilia
The Corporate Usurpation of Human Reproduction and Humanity
jbilek.substack.com
“No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
“Gender identity” ideology is not politically separate from business. Business is no longer separated from politics. We in Western cultures are governed by billionaires in finance who drive policy through our political institutions. A façade of democracy shrouds the oligarchy we live in, just like the gender performances in gender ideology shroud the capitalist profiteering from the colonization of human sex.”
Who Owns Big Pharma and the Billionaires Invested in the Gender Industry?
No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
jbilek.substack.com
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
I mean that there is a liability, a chink in the armor, a gap in the phalanx, a deficit in the protection that one would expect when a Dr. is setting up a treatment plan, and a deficit in the protection one would expect when a parent consents to that treatment.
How do you feel about ADA bathrooms? Or egress windows? Building codes in general? Are architects and builders incompetent?
I'm pro-regulation. That's what this comes down to. Right now there doesn't seem to be ANY regulation on gender affirming care in the US. There are guidelines published, but no one is requiring those guidelines to be followed.
People are being seriously harmed by this. We don't know how many. Anecdotally, sure, trans people say, no one I know has regrets. But anecdotally, people who have regret are shunned. The studies that show the least regret are from countries which have regulations on gender affirming care.
InChrist
Free4ever
If you don’t do the research then you are easily manipulated and that’s what is happening.Oh gimme a break.
I’m not sure why you wouldn’t understand that corporations are in the business of creating markets and manipulating people for profit…. massive and ongoing profits.
…We must look at what “gender identity” accomplishes in the world to understand this and why the largest banks and investment houses in the world have any interest in a tiny minorities' identity issues. “Gender identity” does double duty. First, it opens markets in sexual identity. Without it, the already massively profitable corporate identities created out of same-sex attraction could not be expanded. Without violating the boundaries of male and female, all that exists are lesbian, bisexual, gay, and straight people as a marketing constituency. Add “gender identity,” which provides an illusion of changing sex, placing it on a spectrum, and the marketing constituency expands infinitely. As “gender” ideologists are fond of reporting, there are as many genders as there are people. Any marketing graduate can tell you that honing your message to smaller and smaller, more distinct groups is a recipe for success. Not only are medical identities profitable in this equation, but profits soar for everyone.
Make-up lines, like Crayola’s new Boing Boing, for so-called “gender fluid” individuals, Jecca, a London-based unisex brand of make-up that launched in 2012, Sephora’s Phluid non-binary fragrance line, clothing lines like TomBoyX which market traditional men’s boxer shorts shaped for women’s bodies, are just a few small examples of the marketing opportunities that occur when the boundary between male and female is blurred, and sex has been pronounced as existing on a spectrum. These product lines help to make the illusion more real that we are not a sexually dimorphic species and that there is some other way to be human while supporting new markets.
Who Owns Big Pharma and the Billionaires Invested in the Gender Industry?
No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
jbilek.substack.com
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think that's for the school and district to decide as well as the grade level that they're dealing with.
I'm pro-regulation if and when it's needed.
There appears to be more suicides from teenagers who can't get hormone treatment than with those who have.
Imagine yourself being a man by desire in a body that's female. If you are a heterosexual man, how does it feel to you to have sex with another man?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Yeah, this isn't research. It's conspiracy YouTube nonsense.If you don’t do the research then you are easily manipulated and that’s what is happening.
I’m not sure why you wouldn’t understand that corporations are in the business of creating markets and manipulating people for profit…. massive and ongoing profits.
…We must look at what “gender identity” accomplishes in the world to understand this and why the largest banks and investment houses in the world have any interest in a tiny minorities' identity issues. “Gender identity” does double duty. First, it opens markets in sexual identity. Without it, the already massively profitable corporate identities created out of same-sex attraction could not be expanded. Without violating the boundaries of male and female, all that exists are lesbian, bisexual, gay, and straight people as a marketing constituency. Add “gender identity,” which provides an illusion of changing sex, placing it on a spectrum, and the marketing constituency expands infinitely. As “gender” ideologists are fond of reporting, there are as many genders as there are people. Any marketing graduate can tell you that honing your message to smaller and smaller, more distinct groups is a recipe for success. Not only are medical identities profitable in this equation, but profits soar for everyone.
Make-up lines, like Crayola’s new Boing Boing, for so-called “gender fluid” individuals, Jecca, a London-based unisex brand of make-up that launched in 2012, Sephora’s Phluid non-binary fragrance line, clothing lines like TomBoyX which market traditional men’s boxer shorts shaped for women’s bodies, are just a few small examples of the marketing opportunities that occur when the boundary between male and female is blurred, and sex has been pronounced as existing on a spectrum. These product lines help to make the illusion more real that we are not a sexually dimorphic species and that there is some other way to be human while supporting new markets.
Who Owns Big Pharma and the Billionaires Invested in the Gender Industry?
No “transgender” community pushes an ideology of body dissociation around the world—at lightning speed—into language, law, institutions, and the media simultaneously. Oligarchs govern us at the highest echelons of finance, and they have a vested interest in the gender industry.
You're upset that makeup companies are catering to larger populations of people? Come on, man. That's got absolutely zero to do with the topic at hand.
You should have watched the video I provided from Jon Stewart's show. It's much more informational in nature than this nonsense.
LOL I've been wearing "boy shorts" for like 20 years now. This isn't anything new. Are you also upset that the green M&M wears more sensible shoes now?
You should go Google "David Bowie in the 70's." I think it might blow your mind.
InChrist
Free4ever
Obviously, nothing or no one “says it all”.
To answer your question; the teen, family and doctor should make decisions, not government. Problem is that far too many kids are being indoctrinated into confusing ideas concerning their sexuality and gender in government schools, unbeknownst by their families. These schools doing the indoctrinated are heavily influenced and financed ( as well as many doctors) again by corporate entities motivated by using kids, creating a market and making money.
USA/Schools & Children: Caught in the "Transgender" Industry's Web
As "transgender" activists like Planned Parenthood, the Human Rights Campaign Foundation, GLSEN, Gender Spectrum, and others push more and more radical sexualization indoctrination on younger and younger children, it’s imperative that parents and other decision-makers about children’s education...
www.the11thhourblog.com
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Then maybe actually let them do that, OK?
And how do you supposedly know this from any objective studies? Can you provide links from actual studies on this? Yes or no will do.
Which corporations, so can you give us names with links?