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Antichrist has come

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
The Antichrist has come. The world reacts correctly. There are two correct reactions: to please him (but not accept his seal) and to restrain him. This is what the west does - makes him feel well, and the east restrains this Biblical beast with physical force.


Both methods are a "losing game", but they are winning us some time. It's like a man in a swamp. He must not move. Then he won't die so soon. Who is guilty? Antichrist. What to do? Ban Abortions, lust, and blaspheme (e.g., writing "bible" instead of "Bible," saying "Holy Ghost" instead of "Holy Spirit"). The Antichrist gets his strength from the sins of the people.

 
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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
What to do? Ban Abortions, lust, and blaspheme (e.g., writing "bible" instead of "Bible," saying "Holy Ghost" instead of "Holy Spirit"). The Antichrist gets his strength from the sins of the people.

Hmmm. So, you're not greedy, so you cannot discuss greed. Since you brought up abortions, lust, and blasphemy, are you expert enough to discuss those?

I'm not trying to trick you, I'm trying to find some common ground.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Hmmm. So, you're not greedy, so you cannot discuss greed. Since you brought up abortions, lust, and blasphemy, are you expert enough to discuss those?

I'm not trying to trick you, I'm trying to find some common ground.
Simply, I am not greedy. I cannot imagine greed. I am not lusty. But I can imagine lust.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
The Antichrist has come. The world reacts correctly. There are two correct reactions: to please him (but not accept his seal) and to restrain him. This is what the west does - makes him feel well, and the east restrains this Biblical beast with physical force.


Both methods are a "losing game", but they are winning us some time. It's like a man in a swamp. He must not move. Then he won't die so soon. Who is guilty? Antichrist. What to do? Ban Abortions, lust, and blaspheme (e.g., writing "bible" instead of "Bible," saying "Holy Ghost" instead of "Holy Spirit"). The Antichrist gets his strength from the sins of the people.
Holy Ghost appears 90 times in the King James bible, and it represents the same reality as holy spirit. To understand the bible, one's mind must be attuned to the holy ghost, otherwise it is merely guessing what the scripture means through your mortal mind's reasoning. The antichrist has arisen because of the falling away by the majority of true understanding of the teaching of the bible.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
What to do? Ban Abortions, lust, and blaspheme (e.g., writing "bible" instead of "Bible," saying "Holy Ghost" instead of "Holy Spirit"). The Antichrist gets his strength from the sins of the people.

I vehemently object to imposing your preferred Christian beliefs on others (including non-Christians and non-Orthodox Christians), anywhere in the world, including the United States. Personally speaking, I believe that a religious theocracy is an absolutely horrific idea, whether it's Christian oriented or not. First, how will the dominant religion be chosen? For instance, if Christianity is chosen as the most popular religion, then which version of the Christian religion will end up as the dominant one? Will it be Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, Ethiopian Orthodoxy, Greek Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, Messianic Judaism, Anglicanism, or Protestantism?

Let's say Protestantism is the most popular choice of all Christian sects. First, which Protestant denomination will overshadow and dominate all the other Christian churches? Will it be non-denominational, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, Episcopal, The Church of God, The Church of Christ, Quakers, Mennonites, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, First Baptists, Anabaptists, Primitive Baptists, Second Baptists, Southern Baptists, Reformed Baptists, Freewill Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, or one of the hundreds of other Protestant denominations not listed? Honestly, the task of choosing a specific church to dominate the others would be a difficult responsibility, considering that there are hundreds of Christian denominations to choose from. I can't even imagine the total chaos and dissension that will cause because Christianity is deeply divided, not to mention the fact that many protestant denominations are splintered.

Second, how will this dominant Christian sect be put into practice? Thirdly, what will happen to those who do not follow any particular branch of Christianity? What would become of civil and human rights? Would this theocracy eventually classify and treat those who don't follow Christianity as second-class citizens? Would unbelievers be arrested and put in prison? As I'm sure everyone is aware that conservative Christians are unwilling to support LGBT rights and equality, and there has already been news of a pastor calling for the death of gay people (see here). I shudder to think what would happen if this man and others who believe as he does came to power.

Christians hardly ever agree with each other over biblical interpretation or church doctrine and dogma, let alone on salvation and eternal life (Calvinism vs. Arminianism), proper baptism (fully immersed in water vs. sprinkled with water), speaking in tongues, the end times, female pastors, and the persistent dispute over which Christians are "true Christians" and which ones aren't (for example, Who are the Jehovah’s Witnesses and what are their beliefs?). And the list goes on. If you ask a diverse group of Christians the same theological question, you'll get different answers to the question, and they'll all use the Bible to justify their answer, despite the fact that their answers are different. My point is that we have all these Christians who believe that they're right in their theology and other Christians are wrong in theirs. It's obvious to me that Christians can't all be correct when their beliefs are contrary to each other.

And lastly, I live in the United States, and I value not only my own freedom and rights but also those of my fellow citizens. I also extend this sentiment on behalf of everyone who lives in a country that allows its residents to have both freedom and independence, as well as everyone who lives in a country that does not. I value the liberties and freedom I have as an American, particularly the freedom to practice my religion. The freedom to practice one's own religion (or to have no religion) is a cherished freedom in America, and it should, in my opinion, be safeguarded at all costs. I myself am grateful for the freedom to choose my own beliefs and spiritual path.

I was a devout evangelical Christian for 30 years, but now I follow Wicca, polytheism, and spiritualism. And while I respect other people's freedom to follow their religion in accordance with their own convictions, I would rather they refrain from trying to impose their religion on me. Specifically, I'm referring to [evangelical] Christians who vehemently attempt to impose their beliefs on me, whether it's an effort to win me back over to Christianity or an obnoxious threat of "God's wrath" and "hellfire" if I don't comply with their evangelistic efforts. I was a devout evangelical Christian for 30 years, so I know how game is played to evangelize unbelievers.

On a side note, I've recently discovered that most people I've met online or in person have never heard of spiritualism, so I'll briefly explain what it is. Spiritualism is a religious movement based on the belief that the spirits of the dead exist and have both the ability and the inclination to communicate and interact with the living. Spiritualists believe that the afterlife, or "spirit world," is an eternal existence that is not limited by space or time and that human spirits can freely move between the spirit world and the physical realm by passing through a spiritual vortex (read more about them here) or a spirit portal (mirrors, windows, and doorways, for example). Furthermore, spiritualists believe that psychic mediums like myself (read here and read here to better understand my abilities) have a natural ability to interact and communicate with the spirits of the dead, but they also believe that anyone can develop this psychic ability through extensive study and practice. If you would like to learn more, then please feel free to send me a private message.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The Antichrist has come. The world reacts correctly. There are two correct reactions: to please him (but not accept his seal) and to restrain him. This is what the west does - makes him feel well, and the east restrains this Biblical beast with physical force.


Both methods are a "losing game", but they are winning us some time. It's like a man in a swamp. He must not move. Then he won't die so soon. Who is guilty? Antichrist. What to do? Ban Abortions, lust, and blaspheme (e.g., writing "bible" instead of "Bible," saying "Holy Ghost" instead of "Holy Spirit"). The Antichrist gets his strength from the sins of the people.

" The Antichrist has come."

Didn't the seed of the Antichrist got sown with the Hellenist Paul after some years of disappearance of Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, it transpires, please? Right?

Regards
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
The Anti-Christ would probably arise in either Europe or America, as these together form the beast with ten horns of Daniel (and little horn) and Revelation (and beast with two horns like a lamb) imho.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
And the list goes on. If you ask a diverse group of Christians the same theological question, you'll get different answers to the question,
You could choose to accept my ways of thinking. Have you accepted that God is Dark Energy? For a brief moment you have considered this.

And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in My name receiveth Me: and whosoever shall receive Me receiveth Him that sent Me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great. Luke 9:48.

I could be this child. To become holy, one needs to accept as fact: one is not a scam. Not in a tiny bit.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
You could choose to accept my ways of thinking. Have you accepted that God is Dark Energy? For a brief moment you have considered this.

And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in My name receiveth Me: and whosoever shall receive Me receiveth him that sent Me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great. Luke 9:48.

I could be this child.
Why do you belueve you are "that child" ?
 
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