Any British National Party voters here?

[Mycroft]

Not a supporter of them myself, but curious to see who is and why.

 

[LilyPhoenix]

no sorry i don't vote for racists

 

[Flankerl]

Vote UKIP! Leave the EU!

You know you want to!


Please.

 

[illykitty]

Heck no! We (husband and I) will never vote for nationalists and racists.

We both voted for the Green Party, other parties don't have enough concern for the environment which is the most important thing. Plus personally I didn't want to support any big parties, they never reflect my opinions and interests. I suspect them to have lots of money bags from companies (like Cameron with fracking companies).

 

[Mycroft]

Vote UKIP! Leave the EU!

You know you want to!


Please.

I'm curious to know how much you understand (at the technical level) of both European and UKIP policies. I don't mean the stuff that they write on the flyers, I mean the actual policies and their language.

 

[Flankerl]

They want to leave the EU.

They had me there.



(hint: iam not British)

 

[England my lionheart]

Not a supporter of them myself, but curious to see who is and why.

I'm not either,i detest them and what they stand for,their leader is a bankrupt racist,heres what we are talking about in his own words:

Has called Britain 'a multi-racial hellhole' and described British Muslims as 'the most appalling, insufferable people to have to live with'. Sunday Times, June 2009

'The ultimate aim for me and for the BNP still remains an all-white Britain.'

Financial Times, April 2002

'The only measure which is going to stop immigration . . . is to get very tough with those coming over. Frankly, they need to sink several of those boats. I say the boats should be sunk, they can throw them a life raft, and they can go back to Libya.'

BBC News, July 2009

Asked what he would do with people living in Britain who couldn't be 'sent home' because their nationalities were not clear, he said: 'Drop them out of a plane somewhere over Africa. I don't really care.'

'I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat. . . I have reached the conclusion that the "extermination" tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.'

Theres more but you get the drift,i would be surprised if any supporters post on here,ironically Nick Griffin was elected an MEP.

The problem is people will vote for parties like these because of the failure of the EU,being a part of it has failed to bring any benefit to anyone here and the Euro has had a devastating negative effect.

The question that nobody wants to address is immigration,its like the N word,if you voice concerns over it you are racist,the failure of successive governments to go to referendum to leave the EU will result in protest votes and nutcase racists parties to gain.

 

[Mycroft]

I'm not either,i detest them and what they stand for,their leader is a bankrupt racist,heres what we are talking about in his own words:

Has called Britain 'a multi-racial hellhole' and described British Muslims as 'the most appalling, insufferable people to have to live with'. Sunday Times, June 2009

'The ultimate aim for me and for the BNP still remains an all-white Britain.'

Financial Times, April 2002

'The only measure which is going to stop immigration . . . is to get very tough with those coming over. Frankly, they need to sink several of those boats. I say the boats should be sunk, they can throw them a life raft, and they can go back to Libya.'

BBC News, July 2009

Asked what he would do with people living in Britain who couldn't be 'sent home' because their nationalities were not clear, he said: 'Drop them out of a plane somewhere over Africa. I don't really care.'

'I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat. . . I have reached the conclusion that the "extermination" tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.'

Theres more but you get the drift,i would be surprised if any supporters post on here,ironically Nick Griffin was elected an MEP.

The problem is people will vote for parties like these because of the failure of the EU,being a part of it has failed to bring any benefit to anyone here and the Euro has had a devastating negative effect.

The question that nobody wants to address is immigration,its like the N word,if you voice concerns over it you are racist,the failure of successive governments to go to referendum to leave the EU will result in protest votes and nutcase racists parties to gain.

Oh I don't think the BNP will ever get into power. The election system is designed so that only a pre-selected party by a higher power wins. The BNP is never going to have the favour of these hidden scoundrels. Sometimes their process does falter, as we saw with Lib Dems winning the election, but they were quickly strong-armed into being in coalition with the Tories by said power and the tories very quickly took over.

 

[England my lionheart]

Oh I don't think the BNP will ever get into power. The election system is designed so that only a pre-selected party by a higher power wins. The BNP is never going to have the favour of these hidden scoundrels. Sometimes their process does falter, as we saw with Lib Dems winning the election, but they were quickly strong-armed into being in coalition with the Tories by said power and the tories very quickly took over.

Of course they will never attain power but as a protest vote for people who are unhappy with immigration and the EU,UKIP is another,the problem is that the boys from Eton Cameron and co and Nick Clegg are so detatched from reality and the British public,we should have had a referendum ages ago.

I don't know what power you speak of,the only reason the Tories and Libs got in is because 60% of voters do not vote.

 

[illykitty]

Of course they will never attain power but as a protest vote for people who are unhappy with immigration and the EU,UKIP is another,the problem is that the boys from Eton Cameron and co and Nick Clegg are so detatched from reality and the British public,we should have had a referendum ages ago.

I don't know what power you speak of,the only reason the Tories and Libs got in is because 60% of voters do not vote.

Unfortunately, UKIP has gained quite a lot of seats it seems.

It would be nice if those 60% voted, I feel they probably don't think it would change anything hence why they don't... Or uninterested? That's what most people who don't vote tell me. That's great to keep the big ones in power. They're probably quite happy about that.

I am too unhappy about certain things (though more about environmental concerns though that can tie in with mass immigration if things get really bad) hence why I voted for the Green Party. It is my protest towards the lack of concern about climate change and pollution. Felt better than not voting at all.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

This talk makes me jealous that in America we have really only two viable options to vote for that stand a chance at winning.

 

[StarryNightshade]

As an American, I have very little knowledge of British politics.

Who are the British National Party? What are the other parties? What would their American counterparts be?

 

[Mycroft]

As an American, I have very little knowledge of British politics.

Who are the British National Party? What are the other parties? What would their American counterparts be?

A rough equivalent would be The Nationalist Party of America.

NSDAP would would be the German equivalent.

 

[Mycroft]

This talk makes me jealous that in America we have really only two viable options to vote for that stand a chance at winning.

Actually it's the same here. Only two parties (Labour and Conservatives) stand any chance of winning because - as with america - the elections are rigged by lobbyists and elite cabals from Old World families who tend to enjoy controlling these things. The BNP are annoying, but stand no chance of winning: the powers that be will not let them.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

A rough equivalent would be The Nationalist Party of America.

More like: American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NSDAP would would be the German equivalent.

Well, they don't exist anymore and the BNP isn't explicitly neo-Nazi, so it would be the NDP: National Democratic Party of Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Actually it's the same here. Only two parties (Labour and Conservatives) stand any chance of winning because - as with america - the elections are rigged by lobbyists and elite cabals from Old World families who tend to enjoy controlling these things. The BNP are annoying, but stand no chance of winning: the powers that be will not let them.

Doesn't England still have a representative democracy, in which party members can still get seats even if they don't win the majority? I have always heard and read it is very unlike America's winner-take-all system in which there is no place for anyone but winner.

 

[Mycroft]

Doesn't England still have a representative democracy, in which party members can still get seats even if they don't win the majority? I have always heard and read it is very unlike America's winner-take-all system in which there is no place for anyone but winner.

Sure. They can still get a seat or two. But they're never going to get to the Prime Minister's office.

 

[Mycroft]

More like: American Freedom Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well, they don't exist anymore and the BNP isn't explicitly neo-Nazi, so it would be the NDP: National Democratic Party of Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is, however, a fascist organization.

 

[England my lionheart]

Doesn't England still have a representative democracy, in which party members can still get seats even if they don't win the majority? I have always heard and read it is very unlike America's winner-take-all system in which there is no place for anyone but winner.

Yes we do,its possible to be elected a member of parliament independent of party allegiance,its not great though,passing a Bill through Parliament is a time consuming affair and the House of commons is like a school playground,its embarrassing to think these people were elected when you see how they behave.

Once a Bill has passed through the House of Commons it then has to go to the House of Lords and sometimes they put it back the Commons,the House of Lords has a mixture of life Peers and bestowed Peers,a Peerage could be bstowed on anyone but there are those who inherit the title,mostly the House of Lords is just somewhere for old Lords to sleep

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes we do,its possible to be elected a member of parliament independent of party allegiance,its not great though,passing a Bill through Parliament is a time consuming affair and the House of commons is like a school playground,its embarrassing to think these people were elected when you see how they behave.

Once a Bill has passed through the House of Commons it then has to go to the House of Lords and sometimes they put it back the Commons,the House of Lords has a mixture of life Peers and bestowed Peers,a Peerage could be bstowed on anyone but there are those who inherit the title,mostly the House of Lords is just somewhere for old Lords to sleep

Well, I guess it doesn't sound all that different after all, especially that part of "it's embarrassing to think these people were elected when you see how the behave." That I think sums up quite nicely the bulk majority of the United States Congress. I'm going to have to look more into these Peers as well, as using "life Peer" makes me think of how many US Congressional members never actually leave the scene and become lobbyist after there term is up.