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any Kashmir Shaivites here?

Philomath

Sadhaka
मैत्रावरुणिः;3645604 said:
Well, that's a loaded question because the definition or application of "mithya" would differ from one Vedantic school to another. As far as I know, there is no definitive, monolithic, purely collective definition of it. I could be wrong, however.

Mithya in this case meaning the "unreality of the world"
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
मैत्रावरुणिः;3645604 said:
Well, that's a loaded question because the definition or application of "mithya" would differ from one Vedantic school to another. As far as I know, there is no definitive, monolithic, purely collective definition of it. I could be wrong, however.
I do not think you are wrong.
 

DanielR

Active Member
How's that going for you? It seems kinda difficult

It's not bad. I do have bad days where I can't concentrate at all but overall it's okay. A few years ago when I started getting interested in spirituality I did zen and there's a method called Shikantaza, it's a bit similar to that :).

So, so far, you're the only KS here lol ^^
 

Philomath

Sadhaka
It's not bad. I do have bad days where I can't concentrate at all but overall it's okay. A few years ago when I started getting interested in spirituality I did zen and there's a method called Shikantaza, it's a bit similar to that :).

So, so far, you're the only KS here lol ^^

I think there's at least one other person but they don't regularly use this site.
 

Jaskaran Singh

Divosūnupriyaḥ
Does Bhairava play a big role in Kashmir Shaivism?
Uhh, yeah...
tasya svāmī saṃsāravṛttivighaṭanamahābhīmaḥ।
bhairava iti gurubhirimairanvarthaiḥ saṃstutaḥ śāstre॥1.100॥
 
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NobodyYouKnow

Misanthropist
मैत्रावरुणिः;3645585 said:
Advaita-m in its most traditional sense, in its original identity, not its watered-down version, is repeatedly theistic. There is no ifs and buts about it. That's just how it is. Putting all the philosophical notions to the side, for they can get quite digressing, Advaita-m is theistic.

...if it wasn't...then you wouldn't have had all these Vedantic scriptures written by these "founding fathers" mentioning a certain Deva as Supreme.

If Advaita-m is not theistic...then it is borderline nihilism. But, I doubt that since the "founding fathers" of Vedanta were rigidly orthodox in their outlooks pertaining to "God". You have to understand...this was at a time when "India" was "atheistic/agnostic" in its religo-spiritual outlooks. Then came a young male by the name of Shankaracharya who took the "atheism/agnosticism" of Bauddha Dharma head on with organized debates in order to establish the "superiority" of theism.



Hehe. Yessir.
Thank you so much, MV.

I have been trying to say exactly the same thing ever since I arrived here....now, you have said it...Advaita is Theistic, up until the point of Moksha, when Brahman is actually realised.

As for Kashmir Shaivism...

I guess that I am one, well, pretty close to it anyway.

My religion is Agama Hindu Dharma and I am a 'Balinese Hindu', but it is very close, and I think that Sage Markandeya came from a similar background...

Apart from being a 'Balinese Hindu', I also study the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra (my main scripture), identify with the Trika School of philosophy, read the works of Swami Lakshmanjoo, worship Lord Bhairava as God/Brahman and identify with the Pashupati school as well.

I don't know enough about Kashmiri Shaivism to actually be an authority on it, or even give discourse on it. I am still a novice...still learning about it all..I can answer basic questions about it though.

Om Namah Shivaya
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
From where in Kashmir? My father was born and raised in Srinagar. Yourself???
My great grandfather came from Srinagar and settled in Jodhpur, Rajasthan. Married a girl from Shupiyan (Zoonmali :D). My maternal grandmother's family hailed from Sopore. We have/had our ancestral house near Ganpatyar temple (a small lane to the right of the temple and opposite it). Went there in 80's. Bishweshwar Nath Reu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Rivu - That is my grandfather)
.. Advaita is Theistic, up until the point of Moksha, when Brahman is actually realised.
You see, that is my problem, I have realized Brahman and have achieved nirvana/moksha/enlightenment, that is why I am atheistic.
 
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StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
I'm not a Kashmir Shaivite myself, but I am looking into studying it; as well as Advaita Vedanta and some Vaishnavite schools.

I did identify as a Hindu before, but I ended up drifting away. I'm not yet 100% sure If I'll go back to practicing it yet, but I am going to give it serious study.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
^^ That. Nobody else can do it. :) For example, am I Rama's friend or servant or son or father or Rama himself? Only I can establish the relationship.

"You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I,'" (John 14:28).
 
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DanielR

Active Member
That is something you are going to have to work out for yourself. Nobody can tell you this.

Om Namah Shivaya

I think it was me who created this universe, with me I mean ME, I am me, you and everybody else, so yes I say I am Shiva, the one :D

thanks for the answers btw
 
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